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Israel run amok

Why is it always Israel must exercise restraint,
Because everyone must. And they are not an exception to that rule.
but what everyone does to Israel is basically ignored?
It's not. In fact, it's headline news worldwide, despite being a largely irrelevant regional spat to most of the world's population.
 

Why is it always Israel must exercise restraint, but what everyone does to Israel is basically ignored?
You think the Israelis killed and kidnapped by Hamas are ignored??!!
AFAICT they get way more attention from the media than is enjoyed by ten times that many dead civilian Gazans.

How many dead Gazans is one dead Israeli supposed to equal to the media? We’re way past ten at this point. Going for the hunnert?
 
Why is it always Israel must exercise restraint, but what everyone does to Israel is basically ignored?
You think the Israelis killed and kidnapped by Hamas are ignored??!!
AFAICT they get way more attention from the media than is enjoyed by ten times that many dead civilian Gazans.

How many dead Gazans is one dead Israeli supposed to equal to the media? We’re way past ten at this point. Going for the hunnert?

Already there, according to Wikipedia:
Total killed: 87,378+ (with "Indirect" deaths multiple times higher) vs Total killed: 2,070

But those numbers are "anti-Semitic" according to millions of pro-genocide Americans. And anyway, Israel could kill another 100,000 or even a million and it would be justified: Somebody said something bad in 1948.
 
Netanyahu has been splurging on political capital
Huh? He has an unlimited supply, thanks to Trump's gullibility.
Just watch for Loren's response here (if any). Perhaps I should have titled this thread "Netanyahu run amok".
Ultimately this type of attach is why the hostages exist in the first place. There was no way Hamas leadership would have been provided a modicum of mercy from Mossad after 10/7, without an ace in the hole.
I have read and re-read this a dozen times, and it has yet to make any sense.
Are you thinking that Hamas leadership "have been provided a modicum of mercy" due to their retention of hostages?
How the fuck is THAT manifest?
What would be different? What would be different if they gave up all the hostages today, living and dead? Mercy?
My ass.
Continued unrelenting war against The Enemy is the ONLY thing keeping Bibi out of prison, and you think the release of a couple dozen hostages would change anything?
Foolishness.
 
Netanyahu has been splurging on political capital
Huh? He has an unlimited supply, thanks to Trump's gullibility.
Just watch for Loren's response here (if any). Perhaps I should have titled this thread "Netanyahu run amok".
Ultimately this type of attach is why the hostages exist in the first place. There was no way Hamas leadership would have been provided a modicum of mercy from Mossad after 10/7, without an ace in the hole.
I have read and re-read this a dozen times, and it has yet to make any sense.
Are you thinking that Hamas leadership "have been provided a modicum of mercy" due to their retention of hostages?
Yes, they are still breathing.
What would be different?
They'd been dead 18 months ago.
 
I fail to see what is morally wrong with bombing "the fuck out of" a bunch of Hamas leaders living it up in Doha.
Bombing suspected criminals denies them due process; So you can then no longer morally claim that the people you bombed were criminals. And bombs target areas, not people; You cannot be confident that the people you kill will be the people you wanted to kill.

It is morally wrong to drop bombs in an effort to kill any specific individual or individuals, for this reason.
In peacetime. Israel is at war. They just bombed enemy HQ.
No. As military capabilities increase so must restraint.
Enemy HQ is always a valid target.

Why is it always Israel must exercise restraint, but what everyone does to Israel is basically ignored?
No one but you can adequately address your delusions.
 
There was no way Hamas leadership would have been provided a modicum of mercy from Mossad after 10/7, without an ace in the hole.
I have read and re-read this a dozen times, and it has yet to make any sense.
Are you thinking that Hamas leadership "have been provided a modicum of mercy" due to their retention of hostages?
Yes, they are still breathing.
What would be different?
They'd been dead 18 months ago.
Most of them are dead anyway, iiuc.
 
Enemy HQ is always a valid target.
Says who?

Even strikes against command, control and communications are often contraindicated, particularly if you have the upper hand - if the enemy surrenders. you want him to be able to tell his troops to put down their guns.

Decapitation strikes have always been largely theoretical, because until recently it wasn't practical to make the attempt; But now that it is, there are sound strategic and doctrinal reasons to avoid such things.
The threat of decapitation is useful in convincing someone to make peace.
The entire reason these Hamas leaders were in Doha was that Qatar was trying to broker peace, and was in a good position to do so as both the US and Hamas saw Qatar as fairly friendly, and neutral.
Qatar is not remotely neutral, they just pretend to be.
But Bibi abhors a peace deal. Every time there has been a risk of peace breaking out, he bombs another country. He's Israel's worst enemy right now.
Everything he's bombed has been Iran or an Iranian tentacle. So long as you fail to recognize that they're all pieces of the same whole you will never understand the situation.
 
Why is it always Israel must exercise restraint,
Because everyone must. And they are not an exception to that rule.
but what everyone does to Israel is basically ignored?
It's not. In fact, it's headline news worldwide, despite being a largely irrelevant regional spat to most of the world's population.
But the response to Israel being attacked is always to say that Israel shouldn't provoke it.

And the answer to domestic violence is for the uppity women to quit provoking it. And the answer to school bullying is to quit provoking them.

When dealing with the real problem is hard or impossible blame the victim becomes very attractive because it means you don't have to admit you can't fix it.
 

Why is it always Israel must exercise restraint, but what everyone does to Israel is basically ignored?
You think the Israelis killed and kidnapped by Hamas are ignored??!!
AFAICT they get way more attention from the media than is enjoyed by ten times that many dead civilian Gazans.

How many dead Gazans is one dead Israeli supposed to equal to the media? We’re way past ten at this point. Going for the hunnert?
Ignored as in nothing should be done about it.
 
Why is it always Israel must exercise restraint,
Because everyone must. And they are not an exception to that rule.
but what everyone does to Israel is basically ignored?
It's not. In fact, it's headline news worldwide, despite being a largely irrelevant regional spat to most of the world's population.
But the response to Israel being attacked is always to say that Israel shouldn't provoke it.

And the answer to domestic violence is for the uppity women to quit provoking it. And the answer to school bullying is to quit provoking them.

When dealing with the real problem is hard or impossible blame the victim becomes very attractive because it means you don't have to admit you can't fix it.
That is nonsense. The US does not respond to attacks on Israel by saying Israel provoked it.
No one I know thinks the answer ti domestic violence is for the uppity victim of either gender to stop provoking. Nor does anyone I know thinks the answer to school bullying is to stop provoking bullies.
 
Why is it always Israel must exercise restraint, but what everyone does to Israel is basically ignored?
You think the Israelis killed and kidnapped by Hamas are ignored??!!
AFAICT they get way more attention from the media than is enjoyed by ten times that many dead civilian Gazans.

How many dead Gazans is one dead Israeli supposed to equal to the media? We’re way past ten at this point. Going for the hunnert?

Already there, according to Wikipedia:
Total killed: 87,378+ (with "Indirect" deaths multiple times higher) vs Total killed: 2,070

But those numbers are "anti-Semitic" according to millions of pro-genocide Americans. And anyway, Israel could kill another 100,000 or even a million and it would be justified: Somebody said something bad in 1948.
Yes, they are antisemitic because they're intentionally fake. The "research" they are based on is either pulled entirely from their ass or fundamentally flawed. (They attempted to figure out how many were missed with a capture/recapture test--which is only useful if the capture and recapture are independent. When the recapture is an attempt to find things missed by the original it is not remotely independent. They knew what they were working with, they had to know they were producing garbage.)

Wikipedia is not remotely a credible source on controversial matters because it ends up being voting as to what's true.

All those "indirect" deaths managed to vanish, not reported missing, not buried? Because if it had been either of those they would have been reported.
 
The threat of decapitation is useful in convincing someone to make peace.
The threat of decapitation is useful in convincing someone to give you their banking password.

ACTUAL decapitation, not so much so.
In this case, it's about getting them to give at least a temporary peace.

And when you can't expect to force a surrender decapitation messes up the enemy organization, they function less effectively, especially on large scale matters.
 
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