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We need some kind of complaint survey where we can chart the gripes into a spectrum that ordinary people can use to look these things up.
An independent board of representatives can assign weights to gripes so they can be compared for best resolution of situations where resolution of Gripe X can only be attained by permitting Gripe Y to remain unaddressed, or vice versa.

Actually, after a very time-consuming 5 minutes reading through sub-reddits, I believe I have discovered a method to predict the priority of each complaint. There are essentially three dimensions to each complaint: (a) how much does she not think the way I want her to, (b) how much does she not look the way I want her to and (c) how much does she not want to have sex with me.

Someone might try to write an equation for the priority like this: Complaint score = axm + byn + czp + sqrt(pi). But really that person probably doesn't know what they're doing.

You can still visualize the complaint escalation by adding in a missing component to the original complaint.

Example: "European women have armpit hair." This is merely a one-dimensional complaint. It can be escalated or made stronger by adding another dimension. "Liberal European women have armpit hair." Or you can have all three dimensions: "Liberal European lesbians* have armpit hair." Now, we're getting somewhere and it's almost ready to post to a discussion forum!

*Note, however, merely throwing in the word "lesbian" does not always work because sometimes the doesn't-want-to-have-sex-with-me dimension needs to be spelled out explicitly to other men reading, especially when they're off "checking their email" on the phone in the bathroom: So write explicitly: "Liberal European lesbians who do not want to have sex with me have armpit hair."
 
There are lots of important issues that can be discussed in depth about the shortcomings of the American university system, but this isn't one of them.
Yeah, making students who drug and gang rape another student write essays is one of those important issues/shortcomings.
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Many years ago, when I was a college freshman, a friend of mine showed up one night at my dorm room door, fairly drunk, which was not like her. She told me there was a party downstairs on the men's floor and she was there with her boyfriend and wanted me to come. Then she told me her boyfriend had ditched her. BTW, the floor with the party was the floor her boyfriend lived on and everyone knew everyone more or less. They all knew my friend was dating her boyfriend. I was a bit concerned as my friend was never even tipsy before that I ever saw so said I needed to find my room keys and I'd be right down. She went down ahead of me and I found her a few minutes later, flat on her back on a bed in some guy's room with a line of guys literally out the door and going down the hall, each waiting to take turns. She was a happy drunk and said she just loved everybody! and clearly had no idea what was about to take place. I did though and I immediately went all wrath of God on everybody, all 5'1/98 lbs of me and believe it or not, that dispersed the little party that was about to take place.

That's how much effort it takes to break up a gang rape.

Not one of those 'men' including her boyfriend, had the guts to stand up and stop what was going on.
I still have no clue what all of this has to do with what I wrote.
 
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There are lots of important issues that can be discussed in depth about the shortcomings of the American university system, but this isn't one of them.
Yeah, making students who drug and gang rape another student write essays is one of those important issues/shortcomings.
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Many years ago, when I was a college freshman, a friend of mine showed up one night at my dorm room door, fairly drunk, which was not like her. She told me there was a party downstairs on the men's floor and she was there with her boyfriend and wanted me to come. Then she told me her boyfriend had ditched her. BTW, the floor with the party was the floor her boyfriend lived on and everyone knew everyone more or less. They all knew my friend was dating her boyfriend. I was a bit concerned as my friend was never even tipsy before that I ever saw so said I needed to find my room keys and I'd be right down. She went down ahead of me and I found her a few minutes later, flat on her back on a bed in some guy's room with a line of guys literally out the door and going down the hall, each waiting to take turns. She was a happy drunk and said she just loved everybody! and clearly had no idea what was about to take place. I did though and I immediately went all wrath of God on everybody, all 5'1/98 lbs of me and believe it or not, that dispersed the little party that was about to take place.

That's how much effort it takes to break up a gang rape.

Not one of those 'men' including her boyfriend, had the guts to stand up and stop what was going on.
I still have no clue what all of this has to do with what I wrote.
I understand that you do not understand what having a generally not safe atmosphere fir at least half of the student body is an important issue on every single campus in the US and I strongly guess in the world.

But many fewer men than women need to worry about sexual assault while on campus or at campus related venues.

This has been an issue since women started attending university in classes along with men. It’s been an issue for women in every setting that has existed since recorded history and before.

I understand that men do not face the same level of threat of sexual assault or generally, domestic violence, as do women. Of course men are also sometimes victims of sexual violence and domestic violence but more often from other men than from women. Of course some women do engage in domestic ( or other) violence and sexual assault. But the incidence is very significantly lower, even accounting for the likely even greater under reporting by male victims.

I’m willing to bet that none of the men on this forum were warned about watching their drinks, or simply not drinking, about not letting your friend wander off with some strange ( unknown) guy/guys and not wandering off yourself. Likely you were not warned about a certain demographic of international students who just looove to spend their money on nice dinners out but definitely have a fiancé or wife back home. You probably never carried laundry from the basement t to the 11th floor by stairs to avoid the creepy guy who always seemed to be in the elevator when you were and I’m betting that you never got a knock on your door from some girl who clearly just wanted to have sex with you despite the fact that you really never had an actual conversation about anything. I’ll bet you never had to direct drunk guys away from your dorm room and I’m the only person on this forum that stopped what was shaping up to be a gang bang featuring your too drunk to stand friend. How worried were you walking back to your firm after a lab that ended at 10 pm? Did you carry your keys in your hand, with a key or keys between your knuckles?
 
There are lots of important issues that can be discussed in depth about the shortcomings of the American university system, but this isn't one of them.
Yeah, making students who drug and gang rape another student write essays is one of those important issues/shortcomings.
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View attachment 55431


Many years ago, when I was a college freshman, a friend of mine showed up one night at my dorm room door, fairly drunk, which was not like her. She told me there was a party downstairs on the men's floor and she was there with her boyfriend and wanted me to come. Then she told me her boyfriend had ditched her. BTW, the floor with the party was the floor her boyfriend lived on and everyone knew everyone more or less. They all knew my friend was dating her boyfriend. I was a bit concerned as my friend was never even tipsy before that I ever saw so said I needed to find my room keys and I'd be right down. She went down ahead of me and I found her a few minutes later, flat on her back on a bed in some guy's room with a line of guys literally out the door and going down the hall, each waiting to take turns. She was a happy drunk and said she just loved everybody! and clearly had no idea what was about to take place. I did though and I immediately went all wrath of God on everybody, all 5'1/98 lbs of me and believe it or not, that dispersed the little party that was about to take place.

That's how much effort it takes to break up a gang rape.

Not one of those 'men' including her boyfriend, had the guts to stand up and stop what was going on.
I still have no clue what all of this has to do with what I wrote.
I understand that you do not understand what having a generally not safe atmosphere fir at least half of the student body is an important issue on every single campus in the US and I strongly guess in the world.

But many fewer men than women need to worry about sexual assault while on campus or at campus related venues.

This has been an issue since women started attending university in classes along with men. It’s been an issue for women in every setting that has existed since recorded history and before.

I understand that men do not face the same level of threat of sexual assault or generally, domestic violence, as do women. Of course men are also sometimes victims of sexual violence and domestic violence but more often from other men than from women. Of course some women do engage in domestic ( or other) violence and sexual assault. But the incidence is very significantly lower, even accounting for the likely even greater under reporting by male victims.

I’m willing to bet that none of the men on this forum were warned about watching their drinks, or simply not drinking, about not letting your friend wander off with some strange ( unknown) guy/guys and not wandering off yourself. Likely you were not warned about a certain demographic of international students who just looove to spend their money on nice dinners out but definitely have a fiancé or wife back home. You probably never carried laundry from the basement t to the 11th floor by stairs to avoid the creepy guy who always seemed to be in the elevator when you were and I’m betting that you never got a knock on your door from some girl who clearly just wanted to have sex with you despite the fact that you really never had an actual conversation about anything. I’ll bet you never had to direct drunk guys away from your dorm room and I’m the only person on this forum that stopped what was shaping up to be a gang bang featuring your too drunk to stand friend. How worried were you walking back to your firm after a lab that ended at 10 pm? Did you carry your keys in your hand, with a key or keys between your knuckles?
Ah, I see. I had written a different, snarky response to what you wrote, but then changed it until I further understood what you were saying. Thus, I will respond in more detail.

So, you took an innocuous one line sentence that said the OP wasn't newsworthy. You willfully blew it up into an agenda-filled rant having nothing at all do with the issue at hand, while at the same time implying that I don't care about violence towards women. I am a man, so clearly these are the views I must hold.

I'm a little puzzled though, so maybe you can provide some clarity to me about myself. You see, I worked more DV cases than I can remember. I was only ever unsuccessful in getting one TRO awarded. I helped my clients find shelters, convinced uncertain relatives to take them in, kept abusive fathers away from their children, and only ever lost once at trial when seeking a permanent DVRO. I acted not just as their lawyer, but as a confident they could trust to tell anything to. The most rewarding review on my website was from a female client who wrote, "[My Name] got me into [Name of Shelter] and saved me from losing my kids and my home."

Surely though, I can learn many, many things from you about these issues simply due to my being afflicted with male genitalia.

So by all means, educate me.
 
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There are lots of important issues that can be discussed in depth about the shortcomings of the American university system, but this isn't one of them.
Yeah, making students who drug and gang rape another student write essays is one of those important issues/shortcomings.
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View attachment 55431


Many years ago, when I was a college freshman, a friend of mine showed up one night at my dorm room door, fairly drunk, which was not like her. She told me there was a party downstairs on the men's floor and she was there with her boyfriend and wanted me to come. Then she told me her boyfriend had ditched her. BTW, the floor with the party was the floor her boyfriend lived on and everyone knew everyone more or less. They all knew my friend was dating her boyfriend. I was a bit concerned as my friend was never even tipsy before that I ever saw so said I needed to find my room keys and I'd be right down. She went down ahead of me and I found her a few minutes later, flat on her back on a bed in some guy's room with a line of guys literally out the door and going down the hall, each waiting to take turns. She was a happy drunk and said she just loved everybody! and clearly had no idea what was about to take place. I did though and I immediately went all wrath of God on everybody, all 5'1/98 lbs of me and believe it or not, that dispersed the little party that was about to take place.

That's how much effort it takes to break up a gang rape.

Not one of those 'men' including her boyfriend, had the guts to stand up and stop what was going on.
I still have no clue what all of this has to do with what I wrote.
I understand that you do not understand what having a generally not safe atmosphere fir at least half of the student body is an important issue on every single campus in the US and I strongly guess in the world.

But many fewer men than women need to worry about sexual assault while on campus or at campus related venues.

This has been an issue since women started attending university in classes along with men. It’s been an issue for women in every setting that has existed since recorded history and before.

I understand that men do not face the same level of threat of sexual assault or generally, domestic violence, as do women. Of course men are also sometimes victims of sexual violence and domestic violence but more often from other men than from women. Of course some women do engage in domestic ( or other) violence and sexual assault. But the incidence is very significantly lower, even accounting for the likely even greater under reporting by male victims.

I’m willing to bet that none of the men on this forum were warned about watching their drinks, or simply not drinking, about not letting your friend wander off with some strange ( unknown) guy/guys and not wandering off yourself. Likely you were not warned about a certain demographic of international students who just looove to spend their money on nice dinners out but definitely have a fiancé or wife back home. You probably never carried laundry from the basement t to the 11th floor by stairs to avoid the creepy guy who always seemed to be in the elevator when you were and I’m betting that you never got a knock on your door from some girl who clearly just wanted to have sex with you despite the fact that you really never had an actual conversation about anything. I’ll bet you never had to direct drunk guys away from your dorm room and I’m the only person on this forum that stopped what was shaping up to be a gang bang featuring your too drunk to stand friend. How worried were you walking back to your firm after a lab that ended at 10 pm? Did you carry your keys in your hand, with a key or keys between your knuckles?
Ah, I see. I had written a different, snarky response to what you wrote, but then changed it until I further understood what you were saying. Thus, I will respond in more detail.

So, you took an innocuous one line sentence that said the OP wasn't newsworthy. You willfully blew it up into an agenda-filled rant having nothing at all do with the issue at hand, while at the same time implying that I don't care about violence towards women. I am a man, so clearly these are the views I must hold.

I'm a little puzzled though, so maybe you can provide some clarity to me about myself. You see, I worked more DV cases than I can remember. I was only ever unsuccessful in getting one TRO awarded. I helped my clients find shelters, convinced uncertain relatives to take them in, kept abusive fathers away from their children, and only ever lost once at trial when seeking a permanent DVRO. I acted not just as their lawyer, but as a confident they could trust to tell anything to. The most rewarding review on my website was from a female client who wrote, "[My Name] got me into [Name of Shelter] and saved me from losing my kids and my home."

Surely though, I can learn many, many things from you about these issues simply due to my being afflicted with male genitalia.

So by all means, educate me.
Consumption of drugs and alcohol by college students is an extremely serious issue on every campus in the US.
Sexual assault on college campuses --and off campus sexual assault of college aged students is an extremely serious issue on every campus in the US.

I do not understand how these are not serious issues facing universities every single day. Except that universities and society at large seem intent upon acting the ostrich and keeping head in sand, fingers firmly in ears and eyes snapped shut.

Both are difficult to address effectively. I get it. I saw Animal House in the movie theater when it first came out--very funny at the time, I thought. And I think a lot of parents send their kids off to college with their heads filled with nostalgia for all of the 'fun' they had without really thinking about the potential dangers.

On every campus, there are alcohol related deaths every year. Some lucky ones just end up having their stomachs pumped in the ER. On every campus there are sexual assaults. In my small college town, we see reports in the newspaper once or twice a year but this is a small place and I know enough people involved in/adjacent to police/hospitals to know that not all are reported in the newspaper. Certainly few sexual assaults are: Counseling centers heavily discourage reporting to the police. Bars heavily discourage reporting to the police when a customer finds a drunk girl bleeding with her panties on the floor in the bathroom. As for the police, if she was drunk, how does she know she didn't want it?

Either can result in serious negative repercussions for the students involved and of course for the university. It's hardly a great recruiting tool. And universities are facing the fact that the current and forthcoming generations of college aged prospective students is smaller than before. Customer base is smaller than it used to be, which is a financial problem.

Surprisingly (not at all), money still doesn't just talk, it swears.
 
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