< 1/3 of young men prosecuted for rape are convicted in England and Wales

[Tom Sawyer]

Well, that's not a worry then.

That's an odd response. Why would it be not a worry?

Because the premise of the argument is that rape cases have a much lower conviction rating than other crimes. If that's not a thing, it's not a thing.

 

[ruby sparks]

Because the premise of the argument is that rape cases have a much lower conviction rating than other crimes.

Which argument, by who, are you talking about?

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Because the premise of the argument is that rape cases have a much lower conviction rating than other crimes.

Which argument, by who, are you talking about? Also, how does that relate to whether some thing is or isn't a worry?

The one which I was making and which you were responding to.

I fail to see what would be unclear about the statement.

 

[ruby sparks]

Because the premise of the argument is that rape cases have a much lower conviction rating than other crimes.

Which argument, by who, are you talking about? Also, how does that relate to whether some thing is or isn't a worry?

The one which I was making and which you were responding to.

I fail to see what would be unclear about the statement.

It's completely unclear to me.

If, as seems to be the case, the conviction rate for rape, in England and Wales, is 58%, compared to 57% for reportable crimes generally......how does that mean there's nothing to worry about?

I wasn't responding to your 'argument' as such. I was only using data I'd come across to suggest that conviction rates for rape may not in fact be any worse than for other crimes.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

The one which I was making and which you were responding to.

I fail to see what would be unclear about the statement.

It's completely unclear to me.

If, as seems to be the case, the conviction rate for rape, in England and Wales, is 58%, compared to 57% for reportable crimes generally......how does that mean there's nothing to worry about?

???

If that statistic is inaccurate and the conviction rates are the same, as your links showed, then ... there's not an issue.

I literally have no idea what it is that you're trying to say.

 

[ruby sparks]

Ok. Possible crossed wires, that's all. Probably my mistake.

 

[ruby sparks]

To clarify, what I thought you were saying (which appears to have been a mistake on my part) was that because I posted something which ran against the narrative that had previously pertained in the thread (that conviction rates for rape are comparatively low) that I was implying that there was nothing to worry about in relation to the rape conviction issue generally, whereas in fact you only meant that there was, it seems, nothing to worry about specifically in terms of there apparently not being a relative difference in the conviction rates for the two things (rape and other crimes).

 

[Tom Sawyer]

To clarify, what I thought you were saying (which appears to have been a mistake on my part) was that because I posted something which ran against the narrative that had previously pertained in the thread (that conviction rates for rape are comparatively low) that I was implying that there was nothing to worry about in relation to the rape conviction issue generally, whereas in fact you only meant that there was, it seems, nothing to worry about specifically in terms of there apparently not being a relative difference in the conviction rates for the two things (rape and other crimes).

Correct. If this difference exists, that's something which the prosecutors need to take into account. If this difference doesn't exist, they do not.

 

[ruby sparks]

To clarify, what I thought you were saying (which appears to have been a mistake on my part) was that because I posted something which ran against the narrative that had previously pertained in the thread (that conviction rates for rape are comparatively low) that I was implying that there was nothing to worry about in relation to the rape conviction issue generally, whereas in fact you only meant that there was, it seems, nothing to worry about specifically in terms of there apparently not being a relative difference in the conviction rates for the two things (rape and other crimes).

Correct. If this difference exists, that's something which the prosecutors need to take into account. If this difference doesn't exist, they do not.

Gotcha.

Sometimes, I think that your posts use irony. It's one reason I enjoy your posts, especially as it mostly seems to be done for humour. I think that's part of the reason I misread what you meant. Or maybe I'm wrong and you never use irony. Lol. Maybe it's all just in my head and/or maybe I had unnecessarily braced myself for an adverse reaction (to my posting something running against the thread narrative) which was as it turned out imaginary.

I think it's fair to say that the gender politics threads here can be a bit of a minefield at times.