92 year old beaten with a brick, told to go back to Mexico

[Trausti]

You mean like when Underseer assumed a white person did this, that was a white person being racist against white people?

More in the sense to reject the Orwellian practice of redefining the meaning of commonly understood words for political purposes.

And then, despite being called out for *and reading the callout for* using a tangent to disrupt the flow of conversation away from the situation where anti-immigrant attitudes spread by wealthy "fuckyouigotmine" GOP fucks has become a widespread racial animus against racial groups currently seeking to immigrate, you continue to talk about how it's somehow racist to be against that animus and the people spreading it. Good job.

Hell, you both even emphatically agreed with the statement that is the basis and justification for the claim that the black person beating a Hispanic dude with a brick constitutes racism.

Are you under some belief that Black Americans favor the mass migration of people from Central America to the US? Do you live in a hole?

Latino gang members firebombed black residents to drive them out of Boyle Heights project, prosecutors allege

The charges are the latest in several criminal accusations over the last two decades against Latino street gangs that used violence to push rival black gangs out of certain neighborhoods. A few years ago, federal prosecutors charged members of a Latino gang with a campaign to push blacks out of the unincorporated Florence-Firestone neighborhood that allegedly resulted in 20 homicides over three years. In the Harbor Gateway district of L.A., a Latino gang was accused of targeting African Americans, including 14-year-old Cheryl Green, whose death became a rallying point against such attacks. Members of the Avenues, a Latino gang in Highland Park, were convicted of a series of assaults and killings in the early 1990s.

Celebrate diversity!

 

[Jarhyn]

And then, despite being called out for *and reading the callout for* using a tangent to disrupt the flow of conversation away from the situation where anti-immigrant attitudes spread by wealthy "fuckyouigotmine" GOP fucks has become a widespread racial animus against racial groups currently seeking to immigrate, you continue to talk about how it's somehow racist to be against that animus and the people spreading it. Good job.

Hell, you both even emphatically agreed with the statement that is the basis and justification for the claim that the black person beating a Hispanic dude with a brick constitutes racism.

Are you under some belief that Black Americans favor the mass migration of people from Central America to the US? Do you live in a hole?

Latino gang members firebombed black residents to drive them out of Boyle Heights project, prosecutors allege

The charges are the latest in several criminal accusations over the last two decades against Latino street gangs that used violence to push rival black gangs out of certain neighborhoods. A few years ago, federal prosecutors charged members of a Latino gang with a campaign to push blacks out of the unincorporated Florence-Firestone neighborhood that allegedly resulted in 20 homicides over three years. In the Harbor Gateway district of L.A., a Latino gang was accused of targeting African Americans, including 14-year-old Cheryl Green, whose death became a rallying point against such attacks. Members of the Avenues, a Latino gang in Highland Park, were convicted of a series of assaults and killings in the early 1990s.

Celebrate diversity!

Ah, so you are in a thread about a racist attack against an old man, and trying to justify and defend the racism which led to it.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

It is true that there is hostility and even outright racism between minority communities. I've witnessed this first hand.

 

[dismal]

Are you under some belief that Black Americans favor the mass migration of people from Central America to the US? Do you live in a hole?

Latino gang members firebombed black residents to drive them out of Boyle Heights project, prosecutors allege



Celebrate diversity!

Ah, so you are in a thread about a racist attack against an old man, and trying to justify and defend the racism which led to it.

Look, it has been established by the wokest of woke people here that Black people can't be racist. Ergo, this was not an example of racism. Perhaps it was a groping incident, or perhaps it is attributable to leftist groping hysteria.

Your attitude that Black people can be racist is highly disparaging to Black people and thus an unwelcome display of racism.

 

[thebeave]

I find it a bit amusing that this incident of bigotry, which resulted in a serious injuries (at 92, the guy could have easily died) to a guy who was just minding his own business, gets little mainstream media coverage, while the so-called "racist" incident at Starbucks instigated by two guys who refused to abide by the rules of the establishment results in widespread coverage, worldwide outrage, a company apology and the closing of hundreds of stores for an afternoon to talk about racism.

This might sound like crazy talk, but its almost like the media has some sort of agenda or narrative to push.

 

[Jarhyn]

Are you under some belief that Black Americans favor the mass migration of people from Central America to the US? Do you live in a hole?

Latino gang members firebombed black residents to drive them out of Boyle Heights project, prosecutors allege



Celebrate diversity!

Ah, so you are in a thread about a racist attack against an old man, and trying to justify and defend the racism which led to it.

Look, it has been established by the wokest of woke people here that Black people can't be racist. Ergo, this was not an example of racism. Perhaps it was a groping incident, or perhaps it is attributable to leftist groping hysteria.

Your attitude that Black people can be racist is highly disparaging to Black people and thus an unwelcome display of racism.

This is a straw man. It is clearly a straw man. You have no standing to tell me what other people who are not you believe about racism. If other people want to hold the view that black people can't be racist, it is up to those people who hold that view room express it in their own words, a d maybe if they do that, it can be ethical or acceptable for you to speak to that position, but that isn't what is happening here.

So either accept it in your own words that it was racist, or deny it by your own position, but be honest about it. If you continue answering this discussion with a straw man position, that would be an act of dissembly.

 

[laughing dog]

I find it a bit amusing that this incident of bigotry, which resulted in a serious injuries (at 92, the guy could have easily died) to a guy who was just minding his own business, gets little mainstream media coverage, while the so-called "racist" incident at Starbucks instigated by two guys who refused to abide by the rules of the establishment results in widespread coverage, worldwide outrage, a company apology and the closing of hundreds of stores for an afternoon to talk about racism.

This might sound like crazy talk, but its almost like the media has some sort of agenda or narrative to push.

You're right, it does sound like crazy talk.

 

[dismal]

Look, it has been established by the wokest of woke people here that Black people can't be racist. Ergo, this was not an example of racism. Perhaps it was a groping incident, or perhaps it is attributable to leftist groping hysteria.

Your attitude that Black people can be racist is highly disparaging to Black people and thus an unwelcome display of racism.

This is a straw man. It is clearly a straw man. You have no standing to tell me what other people who are not you believe about racism. If other people want to hold the view that black people can't be racist, it is up to those people who hold that view room express it in their own words, a d maybe if they do that, it can be ethical or acceptable for you to speak to that position, but that isn't what is happening here.

So either accept it in your own words that it was racist, or deny it by your own position, but be honest about it. If you continue answering this discussion with a straw man position, that would be an act of dissembly.

It's far from a strawman. I have stated facts. It has been stated here on multiple occasions that Black people can't be racist.

Here are a few threads where it comes up:

https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ect-of-quot-Black-people-can-t-be-racist-quot
https://talkfreethought.org/showthread.php?6393-The-R-word

These threads refer to other threads where it came up.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

Look, it has been established by the wokest of woke people here that Black people can't be racist. Ergo, this was not an example of racism. Perhaps it was a groping incident, or perhaps it is attributable to leftist groping hysteria.

Your attitude that Black people can be racist is highly disparaging to Black people and thus an unwelcome display of racism.

This is a straw man. It is clearly a straw man. You have no standing to tell me what other people who are not you believe about racism. If other people want to hold the view that black people can't be racist, it is up to those people who hold that view room express it in their own words, a d maybe if they do that, it can be ethical or acceptable for you to speak to that position, but that isn't what is happening here.

So either accept it in your own words that it was racist, or deny it by your own position, but be honest about it. If you continue answering this discussion with a straw man position, that would be an act of dissembly.

7 Habits of Highly Affected Racialists

A thread where I actually got acknowledgement for not being a racist.

 

[dismal]

Look, it has been established by the wokest of woke people here that Black people can't be racist. Ergo, this was not an example of racism. Perhaps it was a groping incident, or perhaps it is attributable to leftist groping hysteria.

Your attitude that Black people can be racist is highly disparaging to Black people and thus an unwelcome display of racism.

This is a straw man. It is clearly a straw man. You have no standing to tell me what other people who are not you believe about racism. If other people want to hold the view that black people can't be racist, it is up to those people who hold that view room express it in their own words, a d maybe if they do that, it can be ethical or acceptable for you to speak to that position, but that isn't what is happening here.

So either accept it in your own words that it was racist, or deny it by your own position, but be honest about it. If you continue answering this discussion with a straw man position, that would be an act of dissembly.

7 Habits of Highly Affected Racialists

A thread where I actually got acknowledgement for not being a racist.

Well, it was touch-and-go there for a while after you exhibited racist behavior by not agreeing that Black people can't be racist.

I don't think Jahyrn has the trump card to play though.

 

[scombrid]

Look, it has been established by the wokest of woke people here that Black people can't be racist.

Strawman.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

7 Habits of Highly Affected Racialists

A thread where I actually got acknowledgement for not being a racist.

Well, it was touch-and-go there for a while after you exhibited racist behavior by not agreeing that Black people can't be racist.

I don't think Jahyrn has the trump card to play though.

Yes, it was touch-and-go until it was discovered that I am a minority and therefore cannot be a racist. Well there is the "white Hispanic" exception, but I was arguing with a white guy so it didn't get invoked.

 

[scombrid]

I find it a bit amusing that this incident of bigotry, which resulted in a serious injuries (at 92, the guy could have easily died) to a guy who was just minding his own business, gets little mainstream media coverage,

I don't watch any TV so I don't know what the infotainmentmercials were talking about.

So I just googled, binged, and Yahoo'd the search terms

Mexican 92 beat

Looked like a lot of mainstream coverage in the search results.

while the so-called "racist" incident at Starbucks instigated by two guys who refused to abide by the rules of the establishment

It has been established that they were behaving in the same way as several other people at that Starbucks at that time. Multiple witnesses attest that the guys weren't causing a disturbance and that multiple other non-customers were camped out. In fact, some woman that was jogging, jogged up to the counter in jogging clothes and got the key to the bathroom, and jogged away after using the bathroom. Maybe you know why those two guys were treated differently?

results in widespread coverage, worldwide outrage, a company apology and the closing of hundreds of stores for an afternoon to talk about racism.

That spread was viral. I didn't see it in the media. I first found out about it on a surfing forum where a guy was complaining about libtards giving a couple of "thugs" a pass to break rules because of race. He said that the guys had pitched a fit because they were refused the bathroom and that the should have been beat for "chimping out". So I searched out the video on the web and made the only reasonable conclusion that I could make about the guy that brought the video to the attention of the surfing forum.

This might sound like crazy talk, but its almost like the media has some sort of agenda or narrative to push.

"The Media" is a monolithic thing with a scripted narrative or dictated agenda?

Who exactly controls this "The Media" and where can I get a copy of its manifesto?

 

[dismal]

I don't watch any TV so I don't know what the infotainmentmercials were talking about.

So I just googled, binged, and Yahoo'd the search terms

Mexican 92 beat

Looked like a lot of mainstream coverage in the search results.

Yeah, I agree I saw a fair amount of coverage on this at the beginning. The outrage machine was pretty fired up about it until it emerged the suspects were Black.

Then it sort of faded away.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Who exactly controls this "The Media" and where can I get a copy of its manifesto?

You can get it on their websites. Comcast, Viacom, Disney, who are all clearly for the fall of capitalism.

 

[Jarhyn]

Look, it has been established by the wokest of woke people here that Black people can't be racist. Ergo, this was not an example of racism. Perhaps it was a groping incident, or perhaps it is attributable to leftist groping hysteria.

Your attitude that Black people can be racist is highly disparaging to Black people and thus an unwelcome display of racism.

This is a straw man. It is clearly a straw man. You have no standing to tell me what other people who are not you believe about racism. If other people want to hold the view that black people can't be racist, it is up to those people who hold that view room express it in their own words, a d maybe if they do that, it can be ethical or acceptable for you to speak to that position, but that isn't what is happening here.

So either accept it in your own words that it was racist, or deny it by your own position, but be honest about it. If you continue answering this discussion with a straw man position, that would be an act of dissembly.

It's far from a strawman. I have stated facts. It has been stated here on multiple occasions that Black people can't be racist.

Here are a few threads where it comes up:

https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ect-of-quot-Black-people-can-t-be-racist-quot
https://talkfreethought.org/showthread.php?6393-The-R-word

These threads refer to other threads where it came up.

While I would love at times to throw down against any idiot who would make such a claim, I don't see that claim coming from anyone in this thread but you. I don't care what others in the past have said. I am not those people, and neither are you. I have never accepted that position, and you are on record in THIS thread agreeing that the position that black people can't be racist is false.

The tragedy of this world is that we are all exposed to the same media and the same government, and when the media and the government says people are bad because you're black, or because you are Mexican, or because they are Muslim, or of ME descent, or gay, or whatever, some part of us starts to believe that message, even if we are part of those groups. Maybe we carve out personal exceptions, or maybe we don't.

The issue here that deserves discussion is "where are these poison messages coming from?" And the answer is "powerful old white men who are too weak-minded to overcome their own genetic selfishness".

 

[dismal]

It's far from a strawman. I have stated facts. It has been stated here on multiple occasions that Black people can't be racist.

Here are a few threads where it comes up:

https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ect-of-quot-Black-people-can-t-be-racist-quot
https://talkfreethought.org/showthread.php?6393-The-R-word

These threads refer to other threads where it came up.

While I would love at times to throw down against any idiot who would make such a claim, I don't see that claim coming from anyone in this thread but you. I don't care what others in the past have said. I am not those people, and neither are you. I have never accepted that position, and you are on record in THIS thread agreeing that the position that black people can't be racist is false.

If you read those threads you will note I am not the idiot making or supporting the claim that Black people can't be racist. I just learned it from people here.

Just like I learned you're supposed to capitalize "Black" when talking about Black people (but not "white" when talking about white people), which you have also failed to do.

I'm going to give myself +2 woke points (and you -2) for being socially aware of these things.

 

[repoman]

It's far from a strawman. I have stated facts. It has been stated here on multiple occasions that Black people can't be racist.

Here are a few threads where it comes up:

https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ect-of-quot-Black-people-can-t-be-racist-quot
https://talkfreethought.org/showthread.php?6393-The-R-word

These threads refer to other threads where it came up.

While I would love at times to throw down against any idiot who would make such a claim, I don't see that claim coming from anyone in this thread but you. I don't care what others in the past have said. I am not those people, and neither are you. I have never accepted that position, and you are on record in THIS thread agreeing that the position that black people can't be racist is false.

If you read those threads you will note I am not the idiot making or supporting the claim that Black people can't be racist. I just learned it from people here.

Just like I learned you're supposed to capitalize "Black" when talking about Black people (but not "white" when talking about white people), which you have also failed to do.

I'm going to give myself +2 woke points (and you -2) for being socially aware of these things.

Damn, you are right

https://www.cjr.org/analysis/language_corner_1.php

Funny it would come from someone named Merrill Perlman.

 

[Jarhyn]

It's far from a strawman. I have stated facts. It has been stated here on multiple occasions that Black people can't be racist.

Here are a few threads where it comes up:

https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ect-of-quot-Black-people-can-t-be-racist-quot
https://talkfreethought.org/showthread.php?6393-The-R-word

These threads refer to other threads where it came up.

While I would love at times to throw down against any idiot who would make such a claim, I don't see that claim coming from anyone in this thread but you. I don't care what others in the past have said. I am not those people, and neither are you. I have never accepted that position, and you are on record in THIS thread agreeing that the position that black people can't be racist is false.

If you read those threads you will note I am not the idiot making or supporting the claim that Black people can't be racist. I just learned it from people here.

Just like I learned you're supposed to capitalize "Black" when talking about Black people (but not "white" when talking about white people), which you have also failed to do.

I'm going to give myself +2 woke points (and you -2) for being socially aware of these things.

Or instead of trying to distract people from the conversation that they are trying to have, particularly about the detrimental effect spewing shittons of toxic propaganda against minority racial groups, you could try participating in the conversation instead. Perhaps you might be able to shed some light on why some such as yourself are so afraid of talking about the effect this toxic propaganda is having, why (presumably) educated people such as yourself are doing nothing to object to that propaganda, and perhaps what your thoughts are on correcting it.

 

[dismal]

If you read those threads you will note I am not the idiot making or supporting the claim that Black people can't be racist. I just learned it from people here.

Just like I learned you're supposed to capitalize "Black" when talking about Black people (but not "white" when talking about white people), which you have also failed to do.

I'm going to give myself +2 woke points (and you -2) for being socially aware of these things.

Or instead of trying to distract people from the conversation that they are trying to have, particularly about the detrimental effect spewing shittons of toxic propaganda against minority racial groups, you could try participating in the conversation instead. Perhaps you might be able to shed some light on why some such as yourself are so afraid of talking about the effect this toxic propaganda is having, why (presumably) educated people such as yourself are doing nothing to object to that propaganda, and perhaps what your thoughts are on correcting it.

They stopped trying to have a conversation about this when it emerged the attackers were Black. You didn't notice that?