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A Creationist Schism Is Tearing Apart A Christian College

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This isn't Religion Vs. Science, though.

This is 'Religionists who can't ignore science' vs. 'those who can.'
 
What's next? A schism over whether the tooth fairy was responsible for a coin appearing under your pillow in place of a tooth? Or will they have an acrimonious falling out over whether the presents under the Christmas tree were really placed there by a middle aged, hirsute, overweight man in a flying sleigh?

“The difference between faith and insanity is that faith is the ability to hold firmly to a conclusion that is incompatible with the evidence, whereas insanity is the ability to hold firmly to a conclusion that is incompatible with the evidence.” -William Harwood
 
This reminds me of all the creationists who post here (or the old forum) and claim that evolution can' tbe trusted because science keeps changing its mind, and all the evolutionusts keep arguing about what evolution is or does.

Has the debate over any evolutionary controversy ever driven such chaos in a shool setting? Has anyone refused to sign their annual statement of evolution because it does/does not specify punctuated equilibrium? Has a school lost 25% of faculty over the exact line between micro and macroevolution?

It seems to me that there's a LOT more coherence within the ToE than there is between any two groups that claim they share the same sourcebook.
 
This is good in every way.

The more that the evolution guys try and jam their god into a bastardized version of the theory and the more they treat more parts of the Bible as some kind of metaphorical whatever, the more irrelevant their god becomes. It becomes closer and closer to some kind of vague deistic god who's followers are harmless nutters at worst. It's much easier to have a theology like that move forward and ramp up to the moral levels which the rest of society has come to when they can just decide to ignore any divine commands which contradict moral behaviour as not meant to be taken seriously.

At the same time, the more that the creationists explain what it is that they actually believe, the more irrelevant they become. I'm always good with them screaming as loudly as possible about the details of their theology so that more and more people can listen and say "Ummm .... what?"
 
You know what makes me sad? That future people will laugh at our period like we laugh at the times when monks discussed how many angels fit on the point of a needle.

It's not fair. Time travel, please!
 
I think they're going to laugh more like we'd laugh at the contemporary of Swift who submitted his thesis paper on the ways to cure a peasant of lycanthropy.

As i recall, he actually rated the cures for effectiveness, noting that there was insufficient evidence to really know if specific cures were associated with specific methods of contracting lycanthropy in the first place. "If one gains the curse by drinking of rainwater collected in the tracks made by wolfs during the light of a full moon, it seems nigh impossible to be able to kill one's cursed maker in seeking a cure, for the maker is one's self."


Then again, maybe they'll be too entertained laughing at the number of people who stopped taking baths when they saw the movie "Jaws."
 
I thought it was, "The yarth is flat" , "No, The earth is round." "No it's the yarth. And it's flat because the Buybull says so." "The earth is round because the bible says so." "Satan worshiper" "Heretic!" "Hang him!" "Burn him!" And so on.

Eldarion Lathria
 
Keith&Co. said:
This reminds me of all the creationists who post here (or the old forum) and claim that evolution can' tbe trusted because science keeps changing its mind, and all the evolutionusts keep arguing about what evolution is or does.
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Religion keeps changing its mind too. We started with the Semitic god El and his wife Asherah and his 70 sons. Then that became El/Yahweh. Then they decided to add Jesus Christ to the mix. Then we had Mohammed, the final prophet. Then Joseph Smith, Mormons, Bahis, Elron Hubbard, and on and on. Gnostics, Catholics, Protestants, process theology. it just keeps changing.

If the religious believers could just prove something well enough to convert the other kooks, maybe they'd be worth paying attention to.
 
Tom Sawyer said:
This is good in every way.

The more that the evolution guys try and jam their god into a bastardized version of the theory and the more they treat more parts of the Bible as some kind of metaphorical whatever, the more irrelevant their god becomes. It becomes closer and closer to some kind of vague deistic god who's followers are harmless nutters at worst. It's much easier to have a theology like that move forward and ramp up to the moral levels which the rest of society has come to when they can just decide to ignore any divine commands which contradict moral behaviour as not meant to be taken seriously.

At the same time, the more that the creationists explain what it is that they actually believe, the more irrelevant they become. I'm always good with them screaming as loudly as possible about the details of their theology so that more and more people can listen and say "Ummm .... what?"
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The more you defend God, the more unbelievable he turns out to be.
 
Cheerful Charlie said:
Keith&Co. said:
This reminds me of all the creationists who post here (or the old forum) and claim that evolution can' tbe trusted because science keeps changing its mind, and all the evolutionusts keep arguing about what evolution is or does.
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Religion keeps changing its mind too. We started with the Semitic god El and his wife Asherah and his 70 sons. Then that became El/Yahweh.
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Well, seeing there are three (four?) versions of El gods in Genesis, it seems the founders of the religion couldn't even keep things straight.
 
Cheerful Charlie said:
If the religious believers could just prove something well enough to convert the other kooks, maybe they'd be worth paying attention to.
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At least one thing is certain, that one group of religionists at one college are saying "We have found the kooks, and they are us!"
 
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