Alex Jones did WHAaaAAAaattT????

[starwater]

45.2 M punitive.

 

[TomC]

45.2 M punitive.

Yay!
Tom

 

[ZiprHead]

 

[ZiprHead]

Roger Stone is imploring Jones' followers to send him money.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

fuck up like the defense did, and then try to sweep it under the carpet is well worth condemnation and parody.

Here's the thing.
To the best of my knowledge, nobody in the public knows what happened. The possibilities are huge. It may have been user error. It may have been an internal sabotage. It may have been an outside hack.

I still lean towards someone who wasn't willing to play along with hiding things that they were legally obligated to turn over.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

There was no "mistake" on the lawyers part, or whoever pushed the send button knew EXACTLY what they were doing.

How could you possibly know that?
Tom

The accidentally sent files included confidential medical files on Infowars employees, I believe--and to deliberately pass that along would be illegal, unlike passing along evidence of a crime given to you by a client. So, I think an accident is a more likely explanation for the dump.

Ok, that changes things. This is an oops, someone sent a higher level folder than they meant to.

 

[TomC]

fuck up like the defense did, and then try to sweep it under the carpet is well worth condemnation and parody.

Here's the thing.
To the best of my knowledge, nobody in the public knows what happened. The possibilities are huge. It may have been user error. It may have been an internal sabotage. It may have been an outside hack.

I still lean towards someone who wasn't willing to play along with hiding things that they were legally obligated to turn over.

It's not that I have any confidence that you're wrong. I'm just still with

I agree there is something swimming beneath the surface here.

Tom

 

[ZiprHead]

There was no "mistake" on the lawyers part, or whoever pushed the send button knew EXACTLY what they were doing.

How could you possibly know that?
Tom

The accidentally sent files included confidential medical files on Infowars employees, I believe--and to deliberately pass that along would be illegal, unlike passing along evidence of a crime given to you by a client. So, I think an accident is a more likely explanation for the dump.

I don't think the medical files were on Infowars employees but on some of the kids that were killed.

 

[Jarhyn]

There was no "mistake" on the lawyers part, or whoever pushed the send button knew EXACTLY what they were doing.

How could you possibly know that?
Tom

The accidentally sent files included confidential medical files on Infowars employees, I believe--and to deliberately pass that along would be illegal, unlike passing along evidence of a crime given to you by a client. So, I think an accident is a more likely explanation for the dump.

I don't think the medical files were on Infowars employees but on some of the kids that were killed.

Either way it makes me a little sad the full contents can never be released publicly.

 

[ZiprHead]

There was no "mistake" on the lawyers part, or whoever pushed the send button knew EXACTLY what they were doing.

How could you possibly know that?
Tom

The accidentally sent files included confidential medical files on Infowars employees, I believe--and to deliberately pass that along would be illegal, unlike passing along evidence of a crime given to you by a client. So, I think an accident is a more likely explanation for the dump.

I don't think the medical files were on Infowars employees but on some of the kids that were killed.

Either way it makes me a little sad the full contents can never be released publicly.

I'd like to know how he got ahold of PMI.

 

[Jarhyn]

There was no "mistake" on the lawyers part, or whoever pushed the send button knew EXACTLY what they were doing.

How could you possibly know that?
Tom

The accidentally sent files included confidential medical files on Infowars employees, I believe--and to deliberately pass that along would be illegal, unlike passing along evidence of a crime given to you by a client. So, I think an accident is a more likely explanation for the dump.

I don't think the medical files were on Infowars employees but on some of the kids that were killed.

Either way it makes me a little sad the full contents can never be released publicly.

I'd like to know how he got ahold of PMI.

I want to know how the FDA hasn't caught up with him AND the law firm(s?) About that whole encryption at rest thing...

 

[Oleg]

45.2 M punitive.

Appears Texas has a cap on punitive damages. Probably will only pay $750K of that.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

In Seprember, a similar trial to assess damages against Jones is scheduled in Connecticut. Stay tuned!

 

[ZiprHead]

45.2 M punitive.

Appears Texas has a cap on punitive damages. Probably will only pay $750K of that.

It's my understanding the cap is 3 X actual, making it 12 million.

 

[ZiprHead]

The Texas law “protects companies and bad actors like Alex Jones, so that they’re never going to be punished to the full extent that would be needed to truly deter them from future actions and to teach other people that this is bad behavior,” said Carrie Goldberg of the C.A. Goldberg Law Firm in New York. “Texas is unusual.”

The very purpose of punitive damages gets frustrated when there’s a cap, she said.

“We do not believe punitive damage caps are constitutional as applied to our case and will certainly litigate that issue if necessary,” Mark Bankston, one of the plaintiffs’ attorneys, told Bloomberg Law.

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law...nitive-damages

The plaintiffs’ lawyers signaled they would fight any efforts to reduce the award, telling a Texas Monthly reporter that he believes the cap does not apply. Counsel also reportedly plan to challenge the constitutionality of the cap.

Mitchell Epner, a former federal prosecutor, media law expert and a partner at Rottenberg Lipman Rich PC, said the award “almost certainly” will be capped to twice the economic damages plus the non-economic damages, with a maximum of $750,000. The economic damages in this case were $110,000, which after doubling drives the punitive damages cap to $970,000, Epner said.

https://lawandcrime.com/live-trials/...racy-theories/

 

[Patooka]

45.2 M punitive.

Appears Texas has a cap on punitive damages. Probably will only pay $750K of that.

And it's still only the tip of the iceberg. Jones is facing a lawsuit in Connecticut as well. And if the DOJ find something interesting on his phone about Jan 6, Federal Marshals can seize it all. It's not unreasonable to think Jones is not walking away from this unscathed.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

I strongly suspect that in Connecticut Jones will have new lawyers.

 

[TomC]

I strongly suspect that in Connecticut Jones will have new lawyers.

Also,
More expensive.
Starting at the bottom of a deeper hole.
Facing a tougher audience.

<snigger>

I'm loving it, myself.
Tom

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

Meanwhile in Connecticut, the lawyers for Jones have been summoned to proceedings considering sanctioning them for releasing medical records of plaintiffs.

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

45.2 M punitive.

Appears Texas has a cap on punitive damages. Probably will only pay $750K of that.

It's my understanding the cap is 3 X actual, making it 12 million.

I think it's even less in Texas.