Another unarmed black man shot to death by police

[ksen]

out...all of you...out

 

[Derec]

No he was not.

I disagree.

It is possible any hit is an accident.

Very true. Even a shot that looked well aimed could have been accidental. Yet that would be unlikely and would raise suspicions that the shooting was deliberate. Suspicions like ksen seems to be having.
Yet a mere shot to the chest is not unlikely to happen accidentally and thus there is no real grounds for suspicion.

then there would have been no shot? Moreover, even if the shooting was an accident, how does that make it some how more reasonable or the victim less dead?

The victim is no less dead, but intent is crucial in what level of criminal culpability the shooter has.

I pleasantly surprised that you agree had no real point to make.

My bad, we don't agree after all.

 

[laughing dog]

I disagree.

That is your privilege. Unfortunately, the actual post does not substantiate your inference.

Very true. Even a shot that looked well aimed could have been accidental. Yet that would be unlikely and would raise suspicions that the shooting was deliberate. Suspicions like ksen seems to be having.
Yet a mere shot to the chest is not unlikely to happen accidentally and thus there is no real grounds for suspicion.

That makes little sense. According to you, any shot could be an accident, so that means any shot anywhere can happen accidentally. So what?

I also have issue with your use of the term "accident". Are you saying the police officer's gun went off spontaneously without any help from him? Or are you saying something external caused him to fire his gun without meaning to? Because if the police officer meant to fire the gun and he had the gun pointed in the direction of the victim, it was not really an accident at all.

The victim is no less dead, but intent is crucial in what level of criminal culpability the shooter has.

No one was debating about the level of criminal culpability. This thread is about another shooting of an unarmed black man by a police officer.

 

[ksen]

Update:

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...n-rep-akai-gurley-lay-dying-article-1.2034219

While Akai Gurley was dying in a darkened stairwell at a Brooklyn housing development, the cop who fired the fatal bullet was texting his union representative, sources told the Daily News.

Right after rookie cop Peter Liang discharged a single bullet that struck Gurley, 28, he and his partner Shaun Landau were incommunicado for more than six and a half minutes, sources said Thursday.

First reaction is to not call for help or medical assistance but to call the union.

To make things even worse, the officers were uncertain of the exact address of the building in the Pink Houses they were in, according to their text messages, the sources said.

The officers didn't even know where they were.

Adding to the tragedy surrounding Gurley’s death, the officers involved were not supposed to be doing a patrol in the stairways, the sources said.

Deputy Inspector Miguel Iglesias, then the head officer of the local housing command, ordered them not to carry out such patrols, known as verticals.

And finally the officers were ordered to not even do these "vertical" searches.

Let's see what happens.

Oh, and in before derec decides to talk about and blame unions instead of anything relevant.