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Another unarmed black man shot to death by police

 
 
 
ksen said:
Gurley was shot in the chest.
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Which is not the same as center mass. Your post implied that him being shot "center mass" meant that it could not have been an accident, that the officer had to have been aiming. But a chest shot doesn't require aiming so that is still consistent with an accident.
Do you think Liang shot Gurley deliberately? That he aimed at him? Why would he have done that? Just wanted to bag himself a black guy? Was he hired by the baby mama because he was cheating on her with the girlfriend he was just visiting? I mean, if he shot Gurley deliberately there has to be a reason, right?
 
ksen said:
The killing of an unarmed man by a police officer was ruled a homicide by the medical examiner. Let's see if this prosecutor is able to get an indictment or if he instead attempts to try the case before the grand jury like that doofus from Missouri.
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Of course it's a homicide. You don't need a medical examiner to know that. The question is what type of homicide.

This sounds like negligent homicide. The cop goes to jail, the department pays a big judgment.
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
Toni said:
To be fair, dark skinned people are harder to see in the dark. And also scarier.
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Black folk seem to attract bullets like rats get cancer. Probably why they don't go hunting often. It is just asking for trouble!
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Maybe black men are more genetically predisposed to the same trouble as Dwight Hendrickson.
 
Derec said:
ksen said:
Gurley was shot in the chest.
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Which is not the same as center mass. Your post implied that him being shot "center mass" meant that it could not have been an accident, that the officer had to have been aiming. But a chest shot doesn't require aiming so that is still consistent with an accident.
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Nonsense. Center mass has no aura protecting it from stray or accidental bullets.
 
laughing dog said:
Nonsense. Center mass has no aura protecting it from stray or accidental bullets.
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I did not say that. Ksen was saying that.
I was merely saying that "shot in the chest" doesn't even have to mean "center mass" but is a much larger (and thus much more likely to be hit randomly) target.

But thanks for agreeing with the point I was making, despite yourself.

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RavenSky said:
Jimmy Higgins said:
Black folk seem to attract bullets like rats get cancer. Probably why they don't go hunting often. It is just asking for trouble!
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Maybe black men are more genetically predisposed to the same trouble as Dwight Hendrickson.
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Why is there apparently a dispute about "center mass" vs "chest" as if those are two different things?

“Center mass. It’s ‘operations central’ for your body, houses your heart, a most important muscle that sends blood to all parts of your frame. Your lungs are also here and they are necessary for the balanced exchange of oxygen and carbon dioxide. You got nerves, lots of nerves that pass through center mass. The vagus nerve for instance represents the golden highway of neurological life sustaining information between your brain and vital organs. This nerve is the master switch for heart rate and blood pressure. Turn off that switch, empty the pump of blood or puncture a lung and a person is likely to die—quickly. This folks is where we are going to put our bullets.”
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http://www.policeone.com/Officer-Sa...ting-center-mass-Shooting-to-kill-or-to-stop/

That’s the reason we shoot at the center of exposed mass.* If you are aiming at your attacker’s chest, and you miss by an inch or two, you still will hit the bad guy and may cause him to stop his attack.* If you aim at something small and moving like a leg or a hand, and you miss, then you stand a good chance of hitting something or someone behind him.
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http://www.guns.com/2011/02/14/shoot-to-wound-shoot-to-kill-shoot-to-live/
 
Derec said:
I did not say that. Ksen was saying that.
I was merely saying that "shot in the chest" doesn't even have to mean "center mass" but is a much larger (and thus much more likely to be hit randomly) target.
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So what you should have said originally was "Just because he was shot center mass doesn't mean it was intentional."
 
Tom Sawyer said:
Ya, that sounds like a clear-cut case of murder. Why did he have his gun out in the first place? I get that dark stairwells are scary and everything but if you're worried about horror movie monsters jumping out at you and shit, start by whacking them with a baton, FFS.
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I've read different accounts of this. One said that guns are drawn during vertical patrols. Another said the holster should be unsnapped, but the gun undrawn. A third said it was discretionary.

One of the original stories said that it was an accidental discharge when the officer opened a door with the same hand that was holding the gun. I haven't seen that version repeated.
 
Horatio Parker said:
Tom Sawyer said:
Ya, that sounds like a clear-cut case of murder. Why did he have his gun out in the first place? I get that dark stairwells are scary and everything but if you're worried about horror movie monsters jumping out at you and shit, start by whacking them with a baton, FFS.
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I've read different accounts of this. One said that guns are drawn during vertical patrols. Another said the holster should be unsnapped, but the gun undrawn. A third said it was discretionary.

One of the original stories said that it was an accidental discharge when the officer opened a door with the same hand that was holding the gun. I haven't seen that version repeated.
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All that really matters is that accidental killings of whites by The Police is extremely rare and apparently some people are tired of it.
 
Horatio Parker said:
Tom Sawyer said:
Ya, that sounds like a clear-cut case of murder. Why did he have his gun out in the first place? I get that dark stairwells are scary and everything but if you're worried about horror movie monsters jumping out at you and shit, start by whacking them with a baton, FFS.
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I've read different accounts of this. One said that guns are drawn during vertical patrols. Another said the holster should be unsnapped, but the gun undrawn. A third said it was discretionary.

One of the original stories said that it was an accidental discharge when the officer opened a door with the same hand that was holding the gun. I haven't seen that version repeated.
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Well, if the department policy is that officers wander around with their guns out when patrolling, then the victims family has a negligence case against the entire department and not just against the individual officer because that's such a fucking stupid policy that it's reasonable to assume that following it would lead to an accidental death in this exact manner.

If the department's policy isn't insanely idiotic, then this officer was not following proper procedures and is guilty of negligent homicide and needs to go to jail. That's the case even if he was following proper procedures, it's just a case of how much money the family would get from the police department.
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
Derec said:
I did not say that. Ksen was saying that.
I was merely saying that "shot in the chest" doesn't even have to mean "center mass" but is a much larger (and thus much more likely to be hit randomly) target.
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So what you should have said originally was "Just because he was shot center mass doesn't mean it was intentional."
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I probably should have but I wanted to emphasize that hitting someone's chest is not really unlikely to do unintentionally as ksen was implying.
 
Derec said:
I did not say that. Ksen was saying that.
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No he was not.
Derec said:
I was merely saying that "shot in the chest" doesn't even have to mean "center mass" but is a much larger (and thus much more likely to be hit randomly) target.
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It is possible any hit is an accident. If you are so intent on pointing out the obvious, why not also point out if the police officer did not have a loaded gun ready to fire, then there would have been no shot? Moreover, even if the shooting was an accident, how does that make it some how more reasonable or the victim less dead?
Derec said:
But thanks for agreeing with the point I was making, despite yourself.
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I pleasantly surprised that you agree had no real point to make.
 
James Brown said:
bilby said:
Why was the completely irrelevant fact I have bolded included in this news report?
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How else do you expect Fox News hosts to repeatedly tell each other, "He was no angel"?
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And that would not be a a trait or pattern on the part of the Huffington Post. I thought that maybe it was a way to indicate that this little girl would be left without a parent since her father was killed. That there is no identified mom to care for her since the girl friend is not the mother.
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
Horatio Parker said:
I've read different accounts of this. One said that guns are drawn during vertical patrols. Another said the holster should be unsnapped, but the gun undrawn. A third said it was discretionary.

One of the original stories said that it was an accidental discharge when the officer opened a door with the same hand that was holding the gun. I haven't seen that version repeated.
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All that really matters is that accidental killings of whites by The Police is extremely rare and apparently some people are tired of it.
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It's about time!
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Stop the madness!
 
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