Are we now in full blown fascist totalitarianism?

[Jimmy Higgins]

Trump suggests Tesla vandals be jailed in El Salvador

President Donald Trump suggested Friday that people who vandalize Tesla property -- the car brand owned by his billionaire ally Elon Musk -- could be deported to prisons in El Salvador.Attorney General Pam Bondi this week branded vandalism against property owned by Tesla as "domestic terrorism"...

uk.finance.yahoo.com

Huh. If only people weren't ridiculously stupid, and didn't blindly believe this administration's lies that only illegal immigrants will be deported. Of course the conservative psychopaths are just going to say they committed a crime so they can be treated as inhumanely as possible, without a second thought about the implications.

Rubio made a comment back in February about US criminals going to El Salvador. It was chilling then. And now Trump is normalizing the idea.

But he is only joking or trolling liberals.

Is he? People committing acts of vandalism and destruction should be arrested, charged, tried, convicted of such acts. They shouldn't be troll bait or sent off to a prison in another country.

 

[Axulus]

Good profile of 15 individuals sent on the kidnapping flights. None of them appear to be gang members, at all.

Just a few (the site contains links to sources, click the link for all 15):

Gustavo Adolfo Aguilera Agüero, 27, had been living in Dallas with his wife since December 2023, when they entered the United States with a CBP One appointment. In early February 2025, Aguilera was arrested while taking out the trash outside their home, his wife told the Miami Herald. He has a nine-month-old U.S. citizen son. His tattoos include his older, Venezuelan-born son’s name, his name and his mother’s name, and a reggaeton lyric. His mother says he has no criminal record.

”JABV,” a 24-year-old who was abducted and beaten for carrying out campaign work on behalf of opposition leader María Corina Machado in 2024. His attorney stated that he has no criminal record in either the United States or Venezuela, no removal order, and “his tattoos are a Rose, a Clock and a Crown with his son’s name on it.”

Franco Caraballo, a 26-year-old barber detained in Dallas on February 3 when he reported to a regular check-in with ICE. His wife, Johanny Sánchez, insists he has no gang ties. “She struggles even to find logic in the accusation,” the Associated Press reported. Caraballo has several tattoos, including an image of a clock commemorating his daughter’s birthday. He had called Ms. Sánchez on the evening of March 14, Reuters reported, to tell her that he was probably being deported to Venezuela even though he had a pending asylum claim.

» Who Did the Trump Administration Just Send to El Salvador’s Dungeons?

adamisacson.com

 

[Axulus]

Imagine being so stupid you're not the least bit skeptical of the claims of the Trump administration.

But these are not normal circumstances

Bullshit. The only thing abnormal about these circumstances is the way the government is behaving - which is the very thing you are seeking to defend by saying "these are not normal circumstances".

People have always sought to enter the USA, and many have done so without the required documents. The "new" thing here is the propagandisation of this normality, in which a bunch of noisy arseholes clamour that it is an "invasion" and an "emergency". It is neither.

Regarding the above two quotes, TSwizzle claims to be a libertarian, which means not trusting the government and wanting the government to engage in minimal action, yet by his support of the actions of the Trump administration, he shows that he does not support these basic libertarian principles.

If true, that is similar to the Russians who support Putin but call themselves anti-fascist.

 

[TSwizzle]

“He doesn’t belong to any criminal gang, either in the US or in Venezuela… he’s not a criminal,” his mother told the BBC. “My brother doesn’t belong to any criminal group, has no criminal history or record in any country and they have unjustly sent him to El Salvador simply because of his tattoos,” the Guardian reported that his brother wrote on Instagram.

Instagram you say? Oh well then, in that case .. . . .

 

[Axulus]

“He doesn’t belong to any criminal gang, either in the US or in Venezuela… he’s not a criminal,” his mother told the BBC. “My brother doesn’t belong to any criminal group, has no criminal history or record in any country and they have unjustly sent him to El Salvador simply because of his tattoos,” the Guardian reported that his brother wrote on Instagram.

Instagram you say? Oh well then, in that case .. . . .

Guilty because Orange Hitler says so? Well, in that case...

Is there anything you wouldn't defend? Did you have any problems with the Nazi death camps? If so, why? They were criminal enemies of the state, according to the Nazi's after all. Or are you like my half brother who thinks "Hitler had some good ideas."?

You can't say you are against the Nazi death camps but support this and be in any way intellectually consistent (not that you seem to particularly care about that)

Is it true you consider yourself a libertarian? If so, how deep does your delusion go? That is like suporting Christian Nationalism or an Islamic Republic and saying you are an atheist.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

“He doesn’t belong to any criminal gang, either in the US or in Venezuela… he’s not a criminal,” his mother told the BBC. “My brother doesn’t belong to any criminal group, has no criminal history or record in any country and they have unjustly sent him to El Salvador simply because of his tattoos,” the Guardian reported that his brother wrote on Instagram.

Instagram you say? Oh well then, in that case .. . . .

How about Trump Admin lawyers?

While it is true that many of the TdA members removed under the AEA do not
have criminal records in the United States, that is because they have only been in the United
States for a short period of time. The lack of a criminal record does not indicate they pose a
limited threat. In fact, based upon their association with TdA, the lack of specific information
about each individual actually highlights the risk they pose. It demonstrates that they are
terrorists with regard to whom we lack a complete profile.

They are terrorists because they have an "association" with TdA. They have an "association" because we say so. Ignore that many of these people have no actual criminal record.

Additionally, a review of ICE databases reveals that numerous individuals
removed have arrests, pending charges, and convictions outside of the United States, including
an individual who is under investigation by Venezuelan authorities for the crimes of aggravated
homicide, qualified kidnapping, and illegal carrying of weapons of war and short arms with
ammunition for organized gang in concealment and trafficking;

According to a review of ICE databases, numerous individuals removed were
arrested together as part of federal gang operations, including two individuals who were in a
vehicle during a Federal Bureau of Investigations gun bust with known TdA members; four
individuals who were arrested during the execution of an Homeland Security Investigations New
York City operation; and four individuals who were encountered during the execution of an
arrest warrant targeting TdA gang member, all of whom were in a residence with a firearm and
attempted to flee out the back of the residence.

Look, some of these people committed crimes.

 

[Axulus]

"They were either committing crimes or thinking of committing crimes. And then there are also the crimes we don't know about. Send them to the death camp."

 

[Elixir]

Look, some of these people committed crimes.

Even if it’s only 1%, wouldn’t it be worth it?
(No)

 

[TSwizzle]

Is there anything you wouldn't defend?

Is there any gangbanger or violent criminal you wouldn't defend?

You seem to have lost sight that many of these people shouldn't be here in the first place and that this is an immigration issue. They are only here because Brandon allowed around nine million people into the USA, unvetted. Criminals or not, they are not automatically entitled to stay in the USA. Why are you so upset that these people (gangbangers) are being removed? Immigration can be fickle and sometimes appears arbitrary but such is the mess that is US immigration law. Granted, most people deported don't get sent to El Salvador for imprisonment and that is a concern but I don't have the details of why this is happening.

 

[Elixir]

Is there any gangbanger or violent criminal you wouldn't defend?

Trump.

many of these people

Oh, okay. Never mind, then.

(That IS what Hitler said, and he made trains run on time… for a while)

 

[Axulus]

Is there anything you wouldn't defend?

Is there any gangbanger or violent criminal you wouldn't defend?

You seem to have lost sight that many of these people shouldn't be here in the first place and that this is an immigration issue. They are only here because Brandon allowed around nine million people into the USA, unvetted. Criminals or not, they are not automatically entitled to stay in the USA. Why are you so upset that these people (gangbangers) are being removed? Immigration can be fickle and sometimes appears arbitrary but such is the mess that is US immigration law. Granted, most people deported don't get sent to El Salvador for imprisonment and that is a concern but I don't have the details of why this is happening.

They were here because the US immigration law allowed them to be here. These rendition flights were completely lawless. But of course you hate US laws which is why you want to burn down the system and have one man and one man only be the law.

And because you hate the law so much, you want to make people slaves who where let in here by those laws. You want to unleash your cruelty and sadism. You have permission to unleash the nastiest part of you and be part of a bunch of adoring MAGA fans cheering it on.

 

[TSwizzle]

Is there anything you wouldn't defend?

Is there any gangbanger or violent criminal you wouldn't defend?

You seem to have lost sight that many of these people shouldn't be here in the first place and that this is an immigration issue. They are only here because Brandon allowed around nine million people into the USA, unvetted. Criminals or not, they are not automatically entitled to stay in the USA. Why are you so upset that these people (gangbangers) are being removed? Immigration can be fickle and sometimes appears arbitrary but such is the mess that is US immigration law. Granted, most people deported don't get sent to El Salvador for imprisonment and that is a concern but I don't have the details of why this is happening.

They were here because the US immigration law allowed them to be here.

And the law also allows them to be removed which is what is happening. Why do you want gangbangers and criminals to be allowed to remain in the USA?

But of course you hate US laws which is why you want to burn down the system and have one man and one man only be the law.

Behave.

 

[Elixir]

And the law also allows them to be removed which is what is happening.

… to “many of them”.
The rest? Tough shit. You should have visited Finland instead.

 

[Axulus]

Is there anything you wouldn't defend?

Is there any gangbanger or violent criminal you wouldn't defend?

You seem to have lost sight that many of these people shouldn't be here in the first place and that this is an immigration issue. They are only here because Brandon allowed around nine million people into the USA, unvetted. Criminals or not, they are not automatically entitled to stay in the USA. Why are you so upset that these people (gangbangers) are being removed? Immigration can be fickle and sometimes appears arbitrary but such is the mess that is US immigration law. Granted, most people deported don't get sent to El Salvador for imprisonment and that is a concern but I don't have the details of why this is happening.

They were here because the US immigration law allowed them to be here.

And the law also allows them to be removed which is what is happening. Why do you want gangbangers and criminals to be allowed to remain in the USA?

But of course you hate US laws which is why you want to burn down the system and have one man and one man only be the law.

Behave.

Rendition flights and disappearing people to foreign slave prisons doesn't suddenly become legal just becauase Orange Hilter says so. What part of that don't you understand?

"Orange Hitler said it, I believe it, that settles it." And "OMG these people are so scary." seems to be the extent of your rationale.

 

[Axulus]

"These Jews, they come here illegally, they destroy our culture, drain our wealth, take our jobs, constantly commit crimes. We need to get rid of them. They have no rights, so by any means necessary."

Sound familar? The connection is so obvious even an eight year old child could see it.

 

[TSwizzle]

"These Jews, they come here illegally, they destroy our culture, drain our wealth, take our jobs, constantly commit crimes. We need to get rid of them."

Sound familar? The connection is so obvious even an eight year old child could see it.

A couple of hundred gangbangers have been removed from the USA is exactly the same thing as murdering 8 millions jews? Asinine.

Why do you want gangbangers and criminals to remain in the USA?

 

[Axulus]

"These Jews, they come here illegally, they destroy our culture, drain our wealth, take our jobs, constantly commit crimes. We need to get rid of them."

Sound familar? The connection is so obvious even an eight year old child could see it.

A couple of hundred gangbangers have been removed from the USA is exactly the same thing as murdering 8 millions jews? Asinine.

Why do you want gangbangers and criminals to remain in the USA?

"We sent a few hundred Jewish filth to a ghetto and you want to whine about their rights? Why do you want a bunch of criminal kikes to remain in our country?"

-Tswizzle, 1933

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

You seem to have lost sight that many of these people shouldn't be here in the first place and that this is an immigration issue. They are only here because Brandon allowed around nine million people into the USA, unvetted. Criminals or not, they are not automatically entitled to stay in the USA. Why are you so upset that these people (gangbangers) are being removed?

...

Granted, most people deported don't get sent to El Salvador for imprisonment and that is a concern but I don't have the details of why this is happening.

Well, looks like you answered your own question there. I'm uncertain what details you are awaiting for to cast judgment.

 

[Axulus]

And Tswizzle, just to be 100% clear, if people have bogus asylum claims (adjudicated by the immigration courts) or are not permanent residents or citizens and are guilty of crimes (duly convicted in a court of law), I don't have any problem deporting them (not to a foreign gulag, but their home countries). So stop with the bogus nonsense.

 

[TSwizzle]

And Tswizzle, just to be 100% clear, if people have bogus asylum claims (adjudicated by the immigration courts) or are not permanent residents or citizens and are guilty of crimes (duly convicted in a court of law), I don't have any problem deporting them (not to a foreign gulag, but their home countries). So stop with the bogus nonsense.

Then for the most part we are in agreement. I also agree with you, sending people to El Salvador to jail does not seem legit and is troublesome. This definitely needs more scrutiny and an explanation. Is it because Venezuela refused to have their citizens returned?