Are we now in full blown fascist totalitarianism?

[Jarhyn]

It seems impossible but what will stop them?

Send Democrats to congress in the midterm elections. And impeach him.
As for Vance, HE will know HE does not have a 'mandate', and can be impeached too.
I am hopeing Rump's actions will kill off the Repugnant party.

So, something I saw earlier:

Quit hope by the Republicans will implode themselves.

Just give up on that entirely, because they want you to think that. They want your hope in their implosion to live so that you feel like you can get away without actually doing anything.

You need to do as much work as you can to make absolute and for goddamn sure that you do everything you possibly can to expose, reveal, give oversight on, and daylight to the Republican party so that it withers there like the vampire it is.

It will not accidentally step out into the Sunbeam and make your life easy. You need to rip open those curtains yourself.

 

[DrZoidberg]

Woke means "competetive vacuous leftist virtue signalling".

Woke means not asleep in history class.

Ha ha ha ha

That's the wokest thing you could possibly have said

Ha ha ha

No. Not a chance

Here's another woke saying: "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it".

Absolutely. Which is why we need to remind ourselves why intolerance leads to disaster. It doesn't matter how high ideals you have, we need to leave space for dissenting views. Woke needs to die.

The Jacob's of the French revolution is the equivalent of the woke mindset. That didn't end well.

Its an insult. Obviously nobody has claimed it.

So it didn't die. The term is just being used less. Maybe the term DEI is taking it's place.

Who cares how much the term is used? Its a word that describes a behaviour. We're not talking about word usage. We're talking about a behaviour. Has the behaviour become less prevalent? I think so.

People are more intellectually curious now and more tolerant of dissenting views. That's the death of woke

You've never heard of MAGA have you? Nor are you aware of what the Republican Party are doing. It seems that you are asleep, and need to wake up.

I think you might live in an ideological bubble. I think MAGA is a reaction to woke. Woke kept going for years without much opposition. What a surprise (=sarcasm) the conservative reaction, when it came, was as vicious.

I don't the MAGA is as bad as woke.

I disagree. I'm a libtard on the left and I hate woke, because it makes us look dumb.

What does this sentence even mean? Libtard is an insult used by right-wingers for anyone who is not right-wing. In what way are you on the left when your every post opposes left-wing views, and supports right-wing (false) interpretations of reality? It is not woke that makes you look dumb but your weird worldview (and who is the 'us' in your sentence?).

I can't answer that. I'm sorry I don't conform to your ideological straight jacket.

I don't think I'm that weird. I actually think I'm right now a pretty normal leftie. Lots of us on the left hate how woke has ruined liberal credibility. Woke needs to die so we can get some normalcy into politics again.

I do not like the current conservative and reactionary trend sweeping the world. As lomg as the left clings to woke that's going to continue imho

 

[Gospel]

I think you might live in an ideological bubble. I think MAGA is a reaction to woke. Woke kept going for years without much opposition. What a surprise (=sarcasm) the conservative reaction, when it came, was as vicious.

I don't the MAGA is as bad as woke.

MAGA isn’t a reaction to “woke.” It’s the continuation of America’s oldest pattern, the powerful convincing the powerless to defend the very systems that exploit them.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

"Woke" (when used in its negative form) is literally just "any 'leftist' idea I don't like".

 

[unapologetic]

Who are you calling kid; ... It doesn't remind me of "my" shortcomings. I was reminding DZ of his.

I appoligize for my lapse in reading comprehention.

Quit hope by the Republicans will implode themselves.

I am rooting for voters to kill off the Repugs.

 

[southernhybrid]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wide_Awakes

Are any of you familiar with the Wide Awakes movement that helped elect Lincoln. Seems to me that "woke" goes back a long way in history, primarily to try to take away the power of the white male elitists. It's nothing new and we need to stop attacking woke, which the far right has twisted from it's original meaning.

It's ignorant to blame "woke", even if you disagree with some things that are labeled woke by the far right extremists. I don't believe it was woke that caused Trump to win. He was a celebrity who easily manipulated the poor and the religious extremists into believing that he would make life better for them. The wealthy love him because he wants to give them more power. Now, even farmers in Iowa are hurting due to his ignorant, hateful, plans, yet some of them still have hope that he will eventually make life better for them. I think that those who are attacked as woke by the far right would do a much better job of helping all citizens and taking some of the power away from the wealthy elitists, although it's an uphill battle for sure.

The US was founded by white male European elitists who didn't give a shit about women, minorities or poor white people and while we've never overcome that completely, we've made progress, but now we're heading back to what the founders wanted. The idea that all men were created equal meant all white wealthy men. it took Lincoln and groups like the Wide Awakes to help us make progress. But when his VP became president after Lincoln was killed, he did his best to destroy the progress that had been made.

Strange how the two parties have reversed themselves over many decades too. The Republicans were once the woke ones, but now that's been reversed.

The Wide Awakes were a youth organization and later a paramilitary organization cultivated by the Republican Partyduring the 1860 presidential election in the United States. Using popular social events, an ethos of competitive fraternity, and even promotional comic books, the organization introduced many to political participation and proclaimed itself as the newfound voice of younger voters. The structured militant Wide Awakes appealed to a generation which had been profoundly shaken by the partisan instability in the 1850s, and offered young northerners a much-needed political identity.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wide_Awakes#cite_note-1"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a>

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

So what other word do you recommend other than "reaction"? It is just a reaction. Isn't it?

Proactively seeking power.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

So what other word do you recommend other than "reaction"? It is just a reaction. Isn't it?

Proactively seeking power.

And it's leaving out the fact that whatever someone considers "woke" is entirely arbitrary and subjective. Saying "MAGA is a reaction to woke" is based on whatever someone's own biases against "woke" is and conservatives themselves can't agree on what woke is- some are more extreme than others in what they consider to be woke (as an obvious example, many conservative Christians would claim being anti-Christian or atheist is an example of "leftist wokeness", yet there are many conservative atheists who are against the Christian religion, and/or also obviously believe it's fine to be an atheist).

 

[DrZoidberg]

"Woke" (when used in its negative form) is literally just "any 'leftist' idea I don't like".

I don't think intolerance should be a leftist idea. The problem with woke is the intolerance and attempts to force obedience. Not the ideas themselves. They're fine.

 

[DrZoidberg]

So what other word do you recommend other than "reaction"? It is just a reaction. Isn't it?

Proactively seeking power.

That's what everyone does. That's why democracy is so good. It helps to balance out the greed over the whole system. Well... better than any other alternative anyway

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

So what other word do you recommend other than "reaction"? It is just a reaction. Isn't it?

Proactively seeking power.

That's what everyone does.

Everyone didn't encourage a mob with violent elements, some armed to use the threat of force and chaos to try to stay in power once losing a democratic election.

That's why democracy is so good.

Democracy isn't a congress that abdicated its authority and let a single individual rule by decree out of fealty.

It helps to balance out the greed over the whole system. Well... better than any other alternative anyway

Competition is good, but that's changing the subject. It's not what we're talking about at all in this thread.

Let's review. You asked what better word than "reactive" and I wrote "proactive." In other words, Trump's actions are planned to increase his power illegitimately by overturning democratic norms. It's not a reaction to "woke."