And by sheer coincidence, it's what the world would happen to look like if there was no God.It would explain a fair amount about the world, ne c'est pas?I look forward to other Christians commenting on the idea that God is figuring out how to fix the mess that he created by trial and error.
An odd claim, in my opinion. How would one know either way, with a sample size of exactly one universe to draw comparisons from?
If you're claiming that one could reason one's way into atheism a posteriori, rather than just by attacking non-atheism and assuming atheism as the last cosmology standing, I for one would be interested in a thread on your hypothesis. I have heard very arguments for atheism over the years, and not for lack of asking. Usually people just get upset at me for asking, and insist that no such argument is necessary (which is true of course but for me unsatisfying). But if you are saying that something observable about the universe's nature somehow implies the absence of a creating entity, that seems like it would be an argument for atheism, not just against Christianity as usual.
This idea is now open for general discussion in its own thread, as it was not elaborated on (and thus didn't derail) the other thread.
If you think the universe seems too haphazard to have been intended, then can you reason to "God didn't make it"? And thereby "reason one's way into atheism a posteriori, rather than just by attacking non-atheism and assuming atheism as the last cosmology standing"?
Are there arguments *for* atheism? Need there be?
Can we expect the universe to look like it looks (ie, not evidently designed with intention) and say "no god did this" with a reasonable amount of certainty?
My argument for atheism is the indisputable stance that I'm not convinced of theism and therefore, to date, I "lack belief" (ie, have not invested in the belief) in any variety of god.
Whereas the stance of naturalism is that no appeals need be made to the supernatural to explain nature.
If anyone would like to argue *for* atheism, have at it.