Bernie Collusion with Russia? This is Priceless if True!

[RVonse]

Trump is greatly helping Putin and his cronies.

According to this popularity poll of Putin....I do not think so much.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48674705

 

[Harry Bosch]

Trump is greatly helping Putin and his cronies.

According to this popularity poll of Putin....I do not think so much.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48674705

Interesting. Is it your view that Putin's popularity or lack thereof in Russia is entirely due to it's interactions with the US?

Separate question, if you were a foreign country, who would you trust more: the US or Putin?

 

[southernhybrid]

I read an interesting analysis of why Russia wants either Trump or Sanders to be our president. I think one of you already hinted at that.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/22/us/politics/russia-election-meddling-trump-sanders.html

t first glance, it may seem contradictory that the nation’s intelligence agencies were telling Congress that President Vladimir V. Putin is presumably striving to get President Trump re-elected, while also warning Senator Bernie Sanders of evidence that he is the Russian president’s favorite Democrat.

But to the intelligence analysts and outside experts who have spent the past three years dissecting Russian motives in the 2016 election, and who tried to limit the effect of Moscow’s meddling in the 2018 midterms, what is unfolding in 2020 makes perfect sense.
Mr. Trump and Mr. Sanders represent the most divergent ends of their respective parties, and both are backed by supporters known more for their passion than their policy rigor, which makes them ripe for exploitation by Russian trolls, disinformation specialists and hackers for hire seeking to widen divisions in American society.

And if you are trying to sow chaos in an a vitriolic election, Mr. Putin can hardly hope for better than a face-off between an incumbent with a history of race-baiting who is shouting “America First” at rallies — while suggesting that the coming election is rigged — and a democratic socialist from Vermont advocating a drastic expansion of taxes and government programs like Medicare.

“Any figures that radicalize politics and do harm to center views and unity in the United States are good for Putin’s Russia,” said Victoria Nuland, who in a long diplomatic career had served both Republican and Democratic administrations, and had her phone calls intercepted and broadcast by Russian intelligence services.

The intelligence reports provided to the House Intelligence Committee, inciting Mr. Trump’s ire, may make the American understanding of Mr. Putin’s plans sound more certain than they really are, according to intelligence officials who contributed to the assessment. Those officials caution that such reports are as much art as science, a mixture of informants, intercepted conversations and intuition, as analysts in the nation’s 17 intelligence agencies try to get into the heads of foreign leaders.

I have to admit that I didn't think of that motivation, but it does make sense.

 

[Koyaanisqatsi]

They’re not backing Sanders because they want him to be President; they’re—once again—trying to position Sanders to go against Trump, because they know Sanders can’t possibly beat Trump. It’s to ensure Trump wins another four years.

 

[ZiprHead]

It's kind of like racist jokes: if nobody complains, you have found your people, and you can all be racist together. If anyone objects "lighten up, have a sense of humor!"

Russia wants to push chaos: they play both sides to create conflict.

Russia wants to make our election seem iligitimate: by releasing come election time that they supported the winner (but only proof of support of that one side), they can create more chaos. In reality, they supported both.

Bernie Sanders has condemned this, has told Russia directly they can fuck off and that he will fight any foreign interference, and his actions and votes indicate that this is true.

Compare to Trump who actively welcomed and publicly solicited foreign interference, and had meetings with Russians and oligarchs behind closed doors.

Still peddling the line about Russian interference, even after it's been proven to be nothing but a hoax!

What color is the sky in your world?

 

[funinspace]

The Twelfth: Orangemen

It's kind of like racist jokes: if nobody complains, you have found your people, and you can all be racist together. If anyone objects "lighten up, have a sense of humor!"

Russia wants to push chaos: they play both sides to create conflict.

Russia wants to make our election seem iligitimate: by releasing come election time that they supported the winner (but only proof of support of that one side), they can create more chaos. In reality, they supported both.

Bernie Sanders has condemned this, has told Russia directly they can fuck off and that he will fight any foreign interference, and his actions and votes indicate that this is true.

Compare to Trump who actively welcomed and publicly solicited foreign interference, and had meetings with Russians and oligarchs behind closed doors.

Still peddling the line about Russian interference, even after it's been proven to be nothing but a hoax!

What color is the sky in your world?

DUH!!!! ORANGE!

Orange Catholic Bible
Orange English - The language where everything's made up and the meanings don't matter.

 

[angelo]

What color is the sky in your world?

DUH!!!! ORANGE!

Orange Catholic Bible
Orange English - The language where everything's made up and the meanings don't matter.

Source CNN......................
March 24, 2019 - Barr releases a letter summarizing the principal conclusions from Mueller's investigation. According to Barr's four-page letter, the evidence was not sufficient to establish that members Trump's campaign tacitly engaged in a criminal conspiracy with the Russian government to interfere with the election. Barr explains that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether the president committed a criminal obstruction of justice offense. While Mueller declined to prosecute Trump, the report "does not exonerate" the president, according to Barr. Ultimately, the attorney general and Rosenstein made a determination that the evidence was not sufficient to charge the president with obstruction, Barr writes. End quote. Anything else is UFO like conspiracy theories!

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/12/us/2016-presidential-election-investigation-fast-facts/index.html

 

[marc]

What color is the sky in your world?

DUH!!!! ORANGE!

Orange Catholic Bible
Orange English - The language where everything's made up and the meanings don't matter.

Source CNN......................
March 24, 2019 - Barr releases a letter summarizing the principal conclusions from Mueller's investigation. According to Barr's four-page letter, the evidence was not sufficient to establish that members Trump's campaign tacitly engaged in a criminal conspiracy with the Russian government to interfere with the election. Barr explains that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether the president committed a criminal obstruction of justice offense. While Mueller declined to prosecute Trump, the report "does not exonerate" the president, according to Barr. Ultimately, the attorney general and Rosenstein made a determination that the evidence was not sufficient to charge the president with obstruction, Barr writes. End quote. Anything else is UFO like conspiracy theories!

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/12/us/2016-presidential-election-investigation-fast-facts/index.html

Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III wrote a letter in late March complaining to Attorney General William P. Barr that a four-page memo to Congress describing the principal conclusions of the investigation into President Trump “did not fully capture the context, nature, and substance” of Mueller’s work, according to a copy of the letter reviewed Tuesday by The Washington Post.

Citing a criminal's defense attorney about the 'facts' of a case is not a great argument. And before you whine, yes Barr is supposed to be the AG, but that is not how he has been acting. Lying about the results of an investigation is not part of an AG's job.

 

[PyramidHead]

Priceless if true

 

[barbos]

That would be consistent with russian strategy, but it is also consistent with Deep State NeoCon strategy as well.
Despite all the excitement of Sanders people there is a serious doubt in his ability to defeat Trump. Plus Sanders is not exactly a democrat.
So they put fake narrative of russians voting for Sanders in order to hurt his nomination.

 

[barbos]

Priceless if true

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Gore part is true:
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2000-oct-24-mn-41201-story.html

 

[RVonse]

Of course Russia is trying to help Sanders--it's a standard political strategy to help the candidate on the other side you think you can beat.

I don't know what Russia is thinking. But I sure know what I am thinking. Sanders is really the only Democrat candidate who has the chance to beat Trump. Your thinking is very short sighted I believe.

That is because unlike all the other Democrats, only Trump and Sanders are populous and populism is what counts today. Both red and blue voters are done with the neocons.

As a white male, it is very difficult to vote for a candidate coming from a party who thinks I am a deplorable. That being said, if Sanders gets the nomination I will be voting for him next election instead of Trump. Not because he is a Democrat but because he is a populous with integrity lacking from Trump. And I think there are many others just like me.

 

[funinspace]

What color is the sky in your world?

DUH!!!! ORANGE!

Orange Catholic Bible
Orange English - The language where everything's made up and the meanings don't matter.

Source CNN......................
March 24, 2019 - Barr releases a letter summarizing the principal conclusions from Mueller's investigation. According to Barr's four-page letter, the evidence was not sufficient to establish that members Trump's campaign tacitly engaged in a criminal conspiracy with the Russian government to interfere with the election. Barr explains that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether the president committed a criminal obstruction of justice offense. While Mueller declined to prosecute Trump, the report "does not exonerate" the president, according to Barr. Ultimately, the attorney general and Rosenstein made a determination that the evidence was not sufficient to charge the president with obstruction, Barr writes. End quote. Anything else is UFO like conspiracy theories!

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/12/us/2016-presidential-election-investigation-fast-facts/index.html

Could you take a break from Orange English for a sec, to tell me if this comment is an attempt to agree or disagree that the sky on your planet is Orange?

 

[blastula]

What color is the sky in your world?

DUH!!!! ORANGE!

Orange Catholic Bible
Orange English - The language where everything's made up and the meanings don't matter.

Source CNN......................
March 24, 2019 - Barr releases a letter summarizing the principal conclusions from Mueller's investigation. According to Barr's four-page letter, the evidence was not sufficient to establish that members Trump's campaign tacitly engaged in a criminal conspiracy with the Russian government to interfere with the election. Barr explains that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether the president committed a criminal obstruction of justice offense. While Mueller declined to prosecute Trump, the report "does not exonerate" the president, according to Barr. Ultimately, the attorney general and Rosenstein made a determination that the evidence was not sufficient to charge the president with obstruction, Barr writes. End quote. Anything else is UFO like conspiracy theories!

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/12/us/2016-presidential-election-investigation-fast-facts/index.html

That has nothing to do with what you said:

Still peddling the line about Russian interference, even after it's been proven to be nothing but a hoax!

 

[PyramidHead]

 

[barbos]

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True.

 

[ZiprHead]

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True.

Strawmen are true?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Of course Russia is trying to help Sanders--it's a standard political strategy to help the candidate on the other side you think you can beat.

I don't know what Russia is thinking. But I sure know what I am thinking. Sanders is really the only Democrat candidate who has the chance to beat Trump. Your thinking is very short sighted I believe.

That is because unlike all the other Democrats, only Trump and Sanders are populous and populism is what counts today. Both red and blue voters are done with the neocons.

As a white male, it is very difficult to vote for a candidate coming from a party who thinks I am a deplorable. That being said, if Sanders gets the nomination I will be voting for him next election instead of Trump. Not because he is a Democrat but because he is a populous with integrity lacking from Trump. And I think there are many others just like me.

Populist candidates always end up being bad for the country.

Note that your precious steel jobs have been declining. They went up a bit on Obama's inertia, not because of His Flatulence.

 

[Gun Nut]

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True.

Strawmen are true?

"Rob" from the internet says "Putin never did anything wrong".

 

[KeepTalking]

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Well, when someone makes the ridiculous comment that "Putin is responsible for every bad thing happening in the world", then the above comment will be worth reading. Until then, all you need to know is that there are dead people all over the world who made the mistake of trying to bring Putin's corruption to light.