Black September - War Between Jordan And PLO - 1970

[Cheerful Charlie]

After the 1967 Six Day War, large numbers of PLO members took refuge in Jordan. The PLO used Jordan as a base for attacks on Israel and terrorist attacks. Eventually the Palestinans brought anarchy, lawlessness, and violence to Jordan. After attempting to overthrow the Jordanian government, there ensued a short war in 1970 against the PLO. Followed up in 1971 by another war to expel remaining PLO fedayeen. These ended up in Lebanon starting the Lebanon Civil War. This is an interesting back round to today's war in Israel against HAMAS. Palestinians have long been problematic.

Black September - Wikipedia

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[TomC]

I believe history like this has a lot to do with Egyptian reluctance to accept Palestinian refugees.

It isn't the numbers. Emptying Gaza would be ~2% of the current Egyptian population. And they'd get tons of international aid. Egypt doesn't want the violent militants and have no way to distinguish peaceful folks from Hamas.
Tom

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

HAMAS, formed in 1987 is explicitly Islamicist and Jihadist. Nobody wants them, or HAMAs supporters.

 

[Politesse]

After the 1967 Six Day War, large numbers of PLO members took refuge in Jordan. The PLO used Jordan as a base for attacks on Israel and terrorist attacks. Eventually the Palestinans brought anarchy, lawlessness, and violence to Jordan. After attempting to overthrow the Jordanian government, there ensued a short war in 1970 against the PLO. Followed up in 1971 by another war to expel remaining PLO fedayeen. These ended up in Lebanon starting the Lebanon Civil War. This is an interesting back round to today's war in Israel against HAMAS. Palestinians have long been problematic.

Black September - Wikipedia

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Wait, so Israel tries to stage a coup in a neighboring nation, and this is proof to you that Palestinians are problematic? Just the Palestinians?

 

[steve_bank]

Israel is a Jewish Zionist state. It is explicitly Jewish. It is near impossible to get Israeli citzenship unless you are Jewish. I knew a Jew who decided to move to Israel to join the army. He said he went through extensive scrutiny as to his being a practicing Jew.

Palestinians, Iran, and Saudi Arabia are Muslim Islamic. Iran and Israel are both militant and aggressive.

You may favor one side or the other, but bot asides are not too different. Is real is Jewish dencracy with strong conservative religious influence. Iran is a demarcate with string conservative relgious influence.

Of course Israel and Iran have different social norms and concepts of individual rights, both have the same basis.

One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.

All that being said even without Israel the regions would be a mess.
Lebanese Syria backed civil war
Iran Iraq war
Iran vs Saudi Arabia
Sudan, Yemen, Ethiopia

Before Israel Jordan annexed the West Bank. I believe that is where Arafat made his entrance. The civil war over which group controlled Jordan.

 

[Bomb#20]

You may favor one side or the other, but bot asides are not too different. Is real is Jewish dencracy with strong conservative religious influence. Iran is a demarcate with string conservative relgious influence.

Of course Israel and Iran have different social norms and concepts of individual rights, both have the same basis.

"It is probably a bad sign when one of the few memorable moments in a presidential debate is an admission that the ballot is rigged. The candidates in Iran’s spent much of the televised event, held on June 8th, criticising an incumbent who is not even on the ballot. Perhaps they felt there was little to discuss: most are hand-picked conservatives put there to lose. It fell to Mohsen Mehralizadeh, a former provincial governor of little note, to point out the obvious. The regime, he said, had aligned “sun, moon and the heavens to make one particular person the president”.

There are no free elections in Iran, where clerics wield ultimate authority and candidates may be disqualified for the flimsiest of reasons. Even by these standards, though, the presidential election scheduled for June 18th is shaping up as a farce. Nearly 600 candidates applied to replace Hassan Rouhani, who took office in 2013 and is barred by term limits from running again. The Guardian Council, a group of clerics and lawyers who vet candidates, allowed only seven on the ballot."

Iran has rigged its election to favour Ebrahim Raisi, a hardliner

Voters may favour staying home

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