Breaking: Ted Cruz is Signing up for Obamacare.

[Nice Squirrel]

It'll be plastered all over the interwebs in a moment folks.

ETA: http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/24/politics/ted-cruz-obamacare/

The newly announced Republican presidential candidate told CNN's Dana Bash on Tuesday that he will sign up for health care coverage through the Affordable Care Act -- a law he has been on a crusade to kill.

"We'll be getting new health insurance and we'll presumably do it through my job with the Senate, and so we'll be on the federal exchange with millions of others on the federal exchange," Cruz said.

Asked whether he would accept the government subsidy available to lawmakers and congressional staffers for their health care coverage through the ACA, Cruz said he will "follow the text of the law."

"I strongly oppose the exemption that President Obama illegally put in place for members of Congress because (Senate Minority Leader) Harry Reid and the Senate Democrats didn't want to be under the same rules as the American people," Cruz said, before repeating: "I believe we should follow the text of the law."

 

[ksen]

Doesn't he think the text of the law says "no subsidies for federal exchanges"?

 

[Tom Sawyer]

This has the potential to become a serious problem. Say that Cruz becomes the GOP nominee for President. He would then get Secret Service protection. However, being on Obamacare, the government death panels could legally order him to be killed in order to save money. If that happens, what do the Secret Service agents do? They're supposed to protect him but they're also supposed to enforce the law.

It could be quite a conundrum they find themselves in.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Is this some kind of joke?! Did The Onion buy CNN from Turner?

Some red states with the largest number of subsidy recipients at risk, including Florida and Texas, stayed off the Oklahoma brief. But that doesn't mean their political leaders were silent. Sens. John Cornyn and Ted Cruz of Texas, and Marco Rubio of Florida, all Republicans, offered a friend-of-the-court brief in September, when the court was pondering whether to take King v. Burwell under advisement. (The brief was also signed by Sens. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, and Rob Portman, R-Ohio, and Reps. Darrell Issa, R-Vista, and Dave Camp, R-Mich., but now retired.)

link

 

[NobleSavage]

It'll be plastered all over the interwebs in a moment folks.

ETA: http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/24/politics/ted-cruz-obamacare/

The newly announced Republican presidential candidate told CNN's Dana Bash on Tuesday that he will sign up for health care coverage through the Affordable Care Act -- a law he has been on a crusade to kill.

"We'll be getting new health insurance and we'll presumably do it through my job with the Senate, and so we'll be on the federal exchange with millions of others on the federal exchange," Cruz said.

Asked whether he would accept the government subsidy available to lawmakers and congressional staffers for their health care coverage through the ACA, Cruz said he will "follow the text of the law."

"I strongly oppose the exemption that President Obama illegally put in place for members of Congress because (Senate Minority Leader) Harry Reid and the Senate Democrats didn't want to be under the same rules as the American people," Cruz said, before repeating: "I believe we should follow the text of the law."

Does he have a choice? Can you still buy insurance that is not through the ACA?

 

[Nice Squirrel]

He sure can, but Obummercare is so much easier and more affordable.

 

[NobleSavage]

He sure can, but Obummercare is so much easier and more affordable.

I don't like Cruz, but I'm having a hard time faulting him here. From the macro view I don't like the home mortgage deduction for a bunch of reasons, but I'll sure take advantage of it. I'm not crazy about the USPO mailbox monopoly, but I use it all the time.

 

[RavenSky]

He sure can, but Obummercare is so much easier and more affordable.

I don't like Cruz, but I'm having a hard time faulting him here. From the macro view I don't like the home mortgage deduction for a bunch of reasons, but I'll sure take advantage of it. I'm not crazy about the USPO mailbox monopoly, but I use it all the time.

Nothing in the law says you have to take the home mortgage interest deduction, and you are free to use Fed Ex or UPS or DHL or local couriers to deliver your mail/packages.

That said, since you are not in a position of denying the deduction or the USPS mail service to others, I am willing to give you a pass on the minor hypocrisy of saying you are against those things but choosing to benefit from them anyway.

Ted Cruz gets no such pass from me. He does not need to use any portion of the ACA. He does because it benefits him and he knows it, but he wants to deny those benefits to everyone else who is NOT in a position to have an alternative if the asshole were ever successful.

He can kiss my ass.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

It'll be plastered all over the interwebs in a moment folks.

ETA: http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/24/politics/ted-cruz-obamacare/

Does he have a choice? Can you still buy insurance that is not through the ACA?

You can buy ACA policies without going through the exchange. I have one.

After looking over the options on the exchange it came down to two options. I called one of them to confirm some details of the provider list--and after thanking the guy for a positive answer and saying I was going over to the exchange to buy it he told me the only reason I would need to go through the exchange was if I was going to get a subsidy. (And I confirmed the price he was quoting was exactly the exchange price and there were none of those medical questions that in the past ruled me out.) Since I don't get one I signed up with him directly--fewer fingers in the pie means less chance for a goof.

 

[dismal]

I don't like Cruz, but I'm having a hard time faulting him here. From the macro view I don't like the home mortgage deduction for a bunch of reasons, but I'll sure take advantage of it. I'm not crazy about the USPO mailbox monopoly, but I use it all the time.

Nothing in the law says you have to take the home mortgage interest deduction, and you are free to use Fed Ex or UPS or DHL or local couriers to deliver your mail/packages.

That said, since you are not in a position of denying the deduction or the USPS mail service to others, I am willing to give you a pass on the minor hypocrisy of saying you are against those things but choosing to benefit from them anyway.

Ted Cruz gets no such pass from me. He does not need to use any portion of the ACA. He does because it benefits him and he knows it, but he wants to deny those benefits to everyone else who is NOT in a position to have an alternative if the asshole were ever successful.

He can kiss my ass.

So people like Obama who talk about eliminating the home interest deduction and people like ksen who write negative posts about the home interest deduction and then take it are hypocritical assholes?

What about all those people who railed against the Bush tax cuts? Should they have been paying the higher rates all those years? Did you?

Because I would suggest that being against something existing does not require you to be stupid enough not to use it if it becomes the law.

 

[ksen]

I don't take the home interest deduction.

hth

 

[ksen]

but that's probably just me nitpicking again

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

This has the potential to become a serious problem. Say that Cruz becomes the GOP nominee for President. He would then get Secret Service protection. However, being on Obamacare, the government death panels could legally order him to be killed in order to save money. If that happens, what do the Secret Service agents do? They're supposed to protect him but they're also supposed to enforce the law.

It could be quite a conundrum they find themselves in.

Didn't Asimov cover this?

 

[dismal]

I don't take the home interest deduction.

hth

I bet you paid taxes at the old Clinton tax rates all these years too. You are surely the one true paragon of walking the talk.

I don't recall that Obama, Biden, Hillary Clinton, etc did that though. Their tax returns are public record so we can know just what sort of hypocritical assholes they are.

I don't recall any stories of the US Treasury wallowing in all the extra taxes being paid in at Clinton Era rates by Democrats who were convinced the Bush Tax Cuts were destroying the economy, nay, the world as we know it.

 

[Earl IV]

I thought you had to be a natural born citizen to qualify for Obamacare?


... or perhaps it was something else.

 

[ksen]

I don't take the home interest deduction.

hth

I bet you paid taxes at the old Clinton tax rates all these years too. You are surely the one true paragon of walking the talk.

I don't recall that Obama, Biden, Hillary Clinton, etc did that though. Their tax returns are public record so we can know just what sort of hypocritical assholes they are.

I don't recall any stories of the US Treasury wallowing in all the extra taxes being paid in at Clinton Era rates by Democrats who were convinced the Bush Tax Cuts were destroying the economy, nay, the world as we know it.

:therethere:

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I bet you paid taxes at the old Clinton tax rates all these years too. You are surely the one true paragon of walking the talk.

I don't recall that Obama, Biden, Hillary Clinton, etc did that though. Their tax returns are public record so we can know just what sort of hypocritical assholes they are.

I don't recall any stories of the US Treasury wallowing in all the extra taxes being paid in at Clinton Era rates by Democrats who were convinced the Bush Tax Cuts were destroying the economy, nay, the world as we know it.

:therethere:

Yup... there there. Remind me again, that W tax cut... that was to give future surplus taxes back right? How'd that surplus ever end up?

 

[braces_for_impact]

This has the potential to become a serious problem. Say that Cruz becomes the GOP nominee for President. He would then get Secret Service protection. However, being on Obamacare, the government death panels could legally order him to be killed in order to save money. If that happens, what do the Secret Service agents do? They're supposed to protect him but they're also supposed to enforce the law.

It could be quite a conundrum they find themselves in.

Just sterilize the bullets. Problem solved.

 

[dismal]

:therethere:

Yup... there there. Remind me again, that W tax cut... that was to give future surplus taxes back right? How'd that surplus ever end up?

It would have worked great if all Democrats (except ksen) weren't such hypocritical assholes.

 

[ksen]

:therethere:

Yup... there there. Remind me again, that W tax cut... that was to give future surplus taxes back right? How'd that surplus ever end up?

Dismal mentions the Left being convinced that W era tax cuts are "destroying the economy, nay, the world as we know it" is kind of funny. Especially since it is the Republicans that are claiming that, in a roundabout way, what with their rhetoric about how evil and dangerous our deficits are when it was W's tax cuts that were a major contributor to our current deficit levels.