can someone please tell me how a fertilized egg is not a human being?

[Swammerdami]

considering the fact that if the fertilized egg in your mother's womb was extinguished would you be here today?

How about the unfertilized egg? Without that, there wouldn't have been the fertilized egg that led to you.

Without fertilization, that egg will die at the time of the menstrual period. Simple logic demonstrates that any woman who refuses to have her egg fertilized is murdering a human being.

Rapists should be applauded, not imprisoned: They are trying to save a human life.

 

[skepticalbip]

considering the fact that if the fertilized egg in your mother's womb was extinguished would you be here today?

How about the unfertilized egg? Without that, there wouldn't have been the fertilized egg that led to you.

Without fertilization, that egg will die at the time of the menstrual period. Simple logic demonstrates that any woman who refuses to have her egg fertilized is murdering a human being.

Rapists should be applauded, not imprisoned: They are trying to save a human life.

That reminds me of a Monty Python bit, "every sperm is sacred".

 

[Learner]

first of all. you did exist...

Where? How so? You mean the little bundle of chemicals was me?

I don't think of that fetal bundle of flesh as human. I became human when I was an aware being with an interest in my existence as a human "me".

hello! that fertilized egg has YOUR DNA in it.

So does your hair. You still cut it though, killing that human l

that is not a good analogy. the fertilized egg is you, if you kill it you die. fact, as you grow organs you become more developed, but that is you.

I think JC, some of the posters missed the context implication of the word fertilized. Unless ... that is the actual thinking intent - going along the same conceptual line, that somehow, one can actually "fertilize" a turd, a hair, a puss, a scab, or even sperm?

 

[skepticalbip]

first of all. you did exist...

Where? How so? You mean the little bundle of chemicals was me?

I don't think of that fetal bundle of flesh as human. I became human when I was an aware being with an interest in my existence as a human "me".

hello! that fertilized egg has YOUR DNA in it.

So does your hair. You still cut it though, killing that human l

that is not a good analogy. the fertilized egg is you, if you kill it you die. fact, as you grow organs you become more developed, but that is you.

I think JC, some of the posters missed the context implication of the word fertilized. Unless ... that is the actual thinking intent - going along the same conceptual line, that somehow, one can actually "fertilize" a turd, a hair, a puss, a scab, or even sperm?

His argument was that the fertilized egg had his DNA which is true but also true for the other examples. An unfertilized egg has only 23 chromosomes but a fertilized egg and all the other examples have 46 chromosomes.

 

[Kylie]

A fertilized egg is a person in the same way an acorn is an oak tree.

 

[Jarhyn]

first of all. you did exist...

Where? How so? You mean the little bundle of chemicals was me?

I don't think of that fetal bundle of flesh as human. I became human when I was an aware being with an interest in my existence as a human "me".

hello! that fertilized egg has YOUR DNA in it. that cell multiplied and multiplied and you are those cells and person. do you know anything about embryology

Mate, the last big shit you took had YOUR DNA in it.

It ain’t special.

I scrolled to the top, and I STG I was thinking this a few posts up from yours and then I got to yours... Fucking spectacular. So nice, I would "like" it twice!

 

[Playball40]

Potential is not the same as me.

When I was born, I was still growing and cells were still replicating but guess what? I wasn't an adult. I had the building blocks to one day BE AN ADULT, but I wasn't then. So no, a fertilized egg has the potential to become human, but is not at that moment.

 

[SIB]

Define what it means to be human. Does the embryo fit the description?

For me, I think of it like a car. The blue prints and raw materials scattered about is not a car. The unfinished is not a car until we reach a certain point. That point id open to debate. Again, for me, its often more clear when its not a car than when it is is one.

I have to admit, I am less emotional than the average bear tho. I only define an object by how it interacts with its surroundings. How I feel about it doesn't matter. Unless I have a strong feeling, then I ask myself if that strong feeling may be skewing my final conclusion.

 

[AdamWho]

"can someone please tell me how a child is not an adult?

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

Can someone please tell me how a chicken is not an egg?

 

[TomC]

Can someone please tell me how a chicken is not an egg?

That's easy.
Not all chickens are eggs. Not all eggs are chickens.

But anyone who claims that no eggs are chickens is scientifically illiterate.

That's being charitable about it.
Tom

 

[abaddon]

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

I read where a pregnant lady was driving in the HOV land because she said there were two people in the car. Will she have to pay for two tickets if she flies on a plane?

 

[Jarhyn]

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Obviously, if you buy yarn you are obligated to knit things.

Obviously, if you have a cupboard full of ingredients you are  obligated to bake things.

Obviously, if you have an organ with a cyst on it you are  obligated to gestate it.

Or arguments to obligation by precursor are fucking stupid.

 

[SIB]

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Excellent visual.