1. Glad you agree that their distrust doesn't have anything to do with any supposed love for US militant adventurism then!
I think theirs and yours is based off an instinctive reaction to anyone who might see Russia as a better alternative to the US, given the current hysterical anti-Russian climate on these boards.
2. Prove it. I criticize our foreign policy constantly, you don't see me being treated with such mistrust or wariness.
I don't see you criticize our foreign policy constantly. I see untermenche criticize our foreign policy constantly. I see Jason Harvestdancer do it. I also see Wiley do it. But you are relatively new, so it might not be an association I've made. But perhaps I spoke too loosely. The larger issue, the "ulterior motive" you speak of, seems to be that Wiley has at some point seemed to prefer Russia over the US. And **GASP** Trump over Hillary!
This is the ultimate sin.
3. Oh please, Harry isn't anything like Derec or Dismal. He has better things to do with his time than try to twist and turn someone into a cheap "Gotcha!" moment.
Harry is a consistent apologist for the establishment's narrative. His entire MO on these boards is reflexively attacking anything he perceives as pro-Trump, which is a lot of things.
But OK, I'll play, what is the alternative? Is Harry actually just ignorant of the various military conflicts the US engaged in? Was this an honest question?
4. Probably? How do you know? Seems to me your objections are based on nothing more than your assumptions.
The post you've quoted has just that. In response, I got:
I asked if he could clarify his accusation, suspecting it's largely hyperbole. I mean, really, 'always?' There have been entire weeks go by where we didn't start a war. Someone else stared a few and we just chose a side.
So yeah, semantic quibbling over "always" and whether or not the we "really started it".
The premise of Wiley's OP: the US is very frequently engaging in war and militarism around the globe. Honestly, that such an obvious fact is met with immediate resistance speaks volumes. You and others can try to quibble and play "gotcha" over Wiley's phrasing, but the substance is never addressed. Due to nebulous "ulterior motives" he might posses. It seems *you* are the one who are basing your responses on nothing more than your assumptions.
Consider the last thread that Wiley started on the subject:
https://talkfreethought.org/showthread.php?11528-Why-has-America-been-at-war-for-16-years
You'll see more of the same from the usual suspects.
And it is pretty obvious that this reaction to Wiley is entirely due to his opinion during the primary, as a foreigner, that Trump might be less militaristic than Hillary. And what has become abundantly clear is that the liberals on this board care less about what I would consider bed-rock liberal principles than the fact that Trump won, and so, this opinion is entirely unforgivable, and now Wiley must be some sort of agent of the GRU. Just witness the disgusting red-baiting that occurs daily, and the constant insinuations that even established members of this board are just secret Kremlin agents because they have a different opinion on the Russian affaire. People proudly proclaim that they have these people on ignore, because you know, why would anyone want to hear alternative views on political topics? We come here so that we can all agree that Trump is the worst, and that the Russians "hacked our democracy", one of the worst crimes in history!
Please. Even if the worst allegations turn out to be true, it is peanuts compared to what the US and most large nations engage in regularly.
