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Capital Hill Autonomous Zone

They claim to want less government, and then they complain when someone makes less government.
Not really less government when they get subsidized by the city (electricity, water, sewer, garbage pickup etc. as I doubt these neohippies are paying the city for these services).

CHAZ, Seattle’s newly police-free neighborhood, explained - Vox - "Best known as the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone, the neighborhood has flourished since police left the area to protesters last week."

Nice article on it.

I expect Vox to be true to form and write a puff-piece. And "flourishing" is easy when the city given you services for free. If the mayor had any sense as well as fortitude, she'd cut off all the services from the insurrectionists.
Ok, I read it. It is a puff piece.

Vox said:
CHAZ has since evolved further into a center of peaceful protest, free political speech,
As long as your speech is not contrary to the left-wing views of the insurrectionists.

co-ops, and community gardens.
But only for black people apparently. So much for being "anti-racist". They are actually racist and too blinded by ideology to realize it!

Protesters have invited the city’s houseless population, who had been subject to a mass “clearing” of tent communities throughout the city, to come stay in the neighborhood.
Are those the same "houseless" people who ate all their vegan food? LMAO!

Movie nights have been held, including Mississippi Burning, about two FBI agents investigating lynchings of black people and activists in Mississippi during the civil rights era.
A movie about cops? Federal cops at that?
Comrades, you are a bit off message here. LMAO!
I would have thought Dr. Zhivago would fit nicely. "This is a better arrangement, comrades, more just." is right in line with their revolutionary goals.

“There was an impromptu dodgeball game,” said Carla. “There are people smoking weed in circles ... and just having normal conversations, and then 20 feet away, you have this large group of people standing around somebody with a megaphone talking about Marxism.”
Marxism works as long as you spend other people's money. In this case as long as Mayor Jenny keeps giving them free services.

Yet right-wing media has painted CHAZ as some kind of war zone, portraying the tiny neighborhood as if it were forcibly seceding from the US.
Whatever could have given them the idea? Maybe signs written by CHAZers themselves?
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There is another sign proclaiming "People's Republic of Capitol Hill".

They include defunding and abolishing the SPD, an end to the school-to-prison pipeline, and the de-gentrification of Seattle, among many other demands.
If they are not cleared soon, CHAZers may well succeed in that last demand, to the city's detriment. But again, Mayor Jenny is weak and refuses to do anything to remove the occupiers.

Nine days into the zone’s creation, its name has also evolved, as it’s now known as the Capitol Hill Organized Protest, or CHOP. But regardless of what it’s called, the run of events that brought the zone into existence was an extraordinary demonstration of protester organizing — and police incompetence.
More like mayor's incompetence. Police could have retaken the territory by now, but the mayor's office and openly socialist city council member Sawant are supportive of the insurrectionists.
“That violence lies at the doorstep of Democratic establishment and Mayor Durkan,” said Sawant. “There started to be calls for Durkan to resign because people were correctly horrified at this violence. People were just stunned that this is Seattle in 2020.”
Obviously, there wasn't enough violence by the dithering Mayor Jenny, since the extremists managed to actually occupy territory. Since then, Mayor Jenny has become basically a collaborator with the occupation. Seattle is divided into occupied Seattle and unoccupied Seattle under a puppet Vichy regime.
That has since been debunked by business owners who explained that it was false
Well they would have to say that, wouldn't they? Did anybody check if they were trying to blink in Morse code?
Even with the inaccurate reporting, that isn’t to say there isn’t some discord at CHOP. According to Carla, the name change and subsequent confusion came from an internal struggle between two groups of protesters with differing visions for the area.
PFJ vs. JPF vs CFG.
Already, said Sawant, CHOP has outlasted what they were able to achieve with that Occupy action, which only lasted three days. But she said she expects police to clear the area sometime in the near future.
Probably not as long as Vichy Jenny is mayor.
Sawant has a more complex explanation. “We have an interest in having safe neighborhoods, but what makes neighborhoods unsafe is not the absence of police,” she said. “What makes neighborhoods [and] neighbors unsafe, and what generates the conditions for crime, predominantly is economic inequality and injustice.”
Even communist countries had crime. Even CHAZ will have to enforce whatever laws they enact, whether via Warlord Raz or somebody else.

So yeah, not impressed with the article nor with the writer.
 
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Oh, since Jimmy complained that I wasn't citing that which is generally well known anyway...

 Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Congratulations! You've Cited Wikipedia. +1 Internet Skillz

But you've yet to actually express any thought on what you demand people talk about. A thread you started. I realize that the Pauli Libertarian Exclusion Principle makes it impossible for you to provide a position while at the same time as being a Libertarian, but seriously, that pot either needs to be utilized or get off of it.
 
White is all colors. You are a rainbow.

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Fox News is Lying About Seattle’s ‘Autonomous Zone’

SEATTLE — On Fox News, host Tucker Carlson called it “chaos and craziness.” Laura Ingraham said it was “a Marxist cultural revolution” intended to “destroy everything that came before it.” In a tweet, President Donald Trump said it was being run by “Domestic Terrorists.”

These people are not describing a foreign war zone or a fallen city. They are describing the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone, a roughly six-block area of Seattle taken over by protesters this week and declared a sovereign territory. Since the zone was established Monday, the internet has been filled with rumors about what it looks like and how it works. Fox News posted a photo of an armed guard at the entrance to the zone and said residents were being forced to show their IDs to get inside. Seattle Police Chief Carmen Best claimed that protesters were shaking down businesses for protection money. Something something Antifa something, cried various online pundits.

All of these rumors are false, and all of these people are lying to you. I live less than a mile from the autonomous zone. I have been there every day this week, in daylight and in darkness, speaking with protesters, meeting with friends, seeing movies and eating pizza.

Don’t believe the right-wing hype. The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone is just the latest in a series of cities demonized in right-wing media with no regard to the circumstances on the ground. In the early 2010s, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly and other conservative pundits spread the rumor that Dearborn, Michigan, had converted its legal system to sharia law. Since then, Fox News and other conservative outlets have aired warnings of “no-go zones,” neighborhoods of European capitals so overwhelmed with immigrants and crime that police officers have abandoned them.

These overblown stories have been debunked, but conservative pundits are attempting to run the same playbook. Fox News even Photoshopped an armed guard into otherwise benign pictures to make the zone appear more threatening. (The website later pulled the photos and added an editors’ note apologizing for the error.)
 
There are a few crazy things going on and there is some open carry. but overall you barely notice it.

People are coming and going all day long. like a street fair.

This is about the most damning thing I have seen
If the Feds want to, Raz may end up in trouble over this



https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.113

Why Raz allowed this to be filmed is beyond me.
 
Mostly peaceful shooting this morning. Three shot? At least one fatality. Ironically police are investigating.
 
CHAZ has been renamed CHOP, Capitol Hill Organized Protest.

It is because if they were to be actually taken seriously, their name meant they were committing insurrection. That's a pretty severe federal crime. Governments treat disrespect of government pretty severely. Lese majeste.

The Soyviet Union is already falling apart. It seems they're not as autonomous they they want to appear. When they have a peaceful shooting, the police and the EMTs don't want to go in there. EMTs in particular have rules about going in to a hostile area that hasn't been cleared yet. There are people in CHAZ/CHOP who seem upset that the government of Seattle aren't providing services.

I think this is ridiculous. They are a bunch of wanna-be larp revolutionaries, not the real thing. Their oppression studies degrees haven't equipped them to try to be autonomous. If you really want to set up your hippie commune you don't do it down town, you go out to where you can get large amounts of land for a very low price and set it up there. Some place like Idaho, like Ruby Ridge. Or you go to a remote area in Texas, like Waco.

Speaking of which, the fact that they haven't gotten a severe response is evidence that they aren't being taken seriously.

They aren't serious. They have no idea what they're doing. Their "demands" make it pretty clear.

The segregation going on in the CHAZ/CHOP is laughable.

These kids should be relieved that they aren't being taken seriously.
 
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