masterpeastheater
Junior Member
I'll start with "the world"
I'll start by asking what you mean?I'll start with "the world"
Google defines cliche as a phrase or opinion that is overused and betrays a lack of original thought. Much of what Christians say does tend to fit this definition. In other words, many Christians are just parroting what they are told. So when they talk about "the world" they just think it sounds like something that is evil in a vague sense. The "evil world" is something they seek to escape and want to warn others to flee from to escape God's wrath.I'll start with "the world"
Speaking for myself, it's basically impossible to tell the difference between God saying no to a prayer or my not praying correctly and prayer simply not working. I could use similar logic regarding my having bad luck despite having a rabbit's foot: I didn't use that rabbit's foot correctly!"Prayer works!"
"Sometimes God says "No"."
I was also part of a group that exercises at our senior center, that was asked to pray for a woman who had metastatic cancer a few years ago. The group all prayed, while I kept my cool without pretending to pray. Three weeks later the woman was dead. Oh well. I guess god had other plans for her. What's the point of praying if god is going to do what it wants anyway?
So, if you don't do it correctly, then it's your fault God says no.Speaking for myself, it's basically impossible to tell the difference between God saying no to a prayer or my not praying correctly and prayer simply not working."Prayer works!"
"Sometimes God says "No"."
So, if you don't do it correctly, then it's your fault God says no.
If God won't end abortions for those who pray against it, either God approves of abortion, or not a single REAL Christain has ever prayed for an end.
Nobody has said that to me in years, but when they did in the past, my reply was always....."cool and I will think for you.""I will pray for you."
"God doesn't want anyone to go to hell"
They believe most people are going there eternally but think God is perfectly loving and free will might be involved.
A fading influence. My wife taught metaphor to tenth and eleventh grade English classes. They don't read much of anything anymore, and certainly not Bible stories.The thing is some of those Christian cliches actually are helpful to them. They are part of the western culture. Having the patience of Job or the wisdom of Solomon.
However, I did see my casual nurse friend who lost her fiancé' to COVID, probably due to their refusal to take the vaccine, say on FB. "I was supposed to be married on Nov. 6th, but God had other plans." I guess that gives people like her comfort. If I was a believer, I'd be mad as hell at my god for not telling me to take the vaccine, for making me very sick and for taking my fiancé away.
I think it used to be under the earth but now it might be in another dimension. (like in the Doom games)Where exactly is hell, anyway?"God doesn't want anyone to go to hell"
I don't think many people would prefer to go to hell rather than heaven.... (maybe some metal fans) also a lot of unsaved people (e.g. Moslems, Mormons?) would really really want to go the heaven but many Christians would believe those people have to go to hell....I understand that God is too loving to force anybody into heaven. Does it then follow that forcing somebody into heaven would be hateful?They believe most people are going there eternally but think God is perfectly loving and free will might be involved.