Christians emotionaly feed on atheists.

[steve_bank]

On an HLN segment was a woan in her 90s claiming her longevity was based on her faith. The anchor agreed, so much for cable news objectivity.

The discussion drifted to atheists, atheist realy beliving in god but not admitting or recognizing it.

As it went on it seemed clear Christians feed on atheists. Without atheists and others including Satan they have nothing to focus on to feed their faith.

Psychologically the transfer their anger and doubts onto others and feel better about themselves, a catharsis. Of sons and failings are due to Satan et al, they bear no responsibility. No worries.

 

[braces_for_impact]

To see how this benign and meek faith can cause great harm, even without the bigotry, see Satanic Panic.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Their favorite book promises them they'll be mocked for their faith.

Militant atheists are assholes, but they're the Bestest assholes. They're proven right by those assholes.

 

[Rhea]

It seems to be a theme that repeats itself when they claim “how can you what good is if you don’t have bad?” A question that I have never thought made sense since it’s easy to know, for example that black cherry ice cream is good without having to eat poop to discover it, or that beaches are good without having to be drowned in a swamp to detect it, or that frends are good, without having to be outcast to feel it.

But I think you’re right. They look at atheists (well, their straw-man of atheists) in order to notice that they like their religion.

 

[Learner]

In regards to the OP, I personally (like others) certainly do nothing of the kind but we do get inspired (emotionally too) by the scriptures, as Christians do. To be fair .. there are also those uder-the-guise that feed their coffers from the pockets of believers. A mixed bunch of people (as humans variably are, in groups) just like anywhere else I suppose.

 

[braces_for_impact]

In regards to the OP, I personally (like others) certainly do nothing of the kind but we do get inspired (emotionally too) by the scriptures, as Christians do. To be fair .. there also those uder-the-guise that feed their coffers. A mixed bunch of people (as humans variably are, in groups) just like anywhere else I suppose.

I see what you're trying to say, but I think this all too easily lets certain people off the hook. The very idea underpinning most versions of Christianity is that people are awful, and redeemed through grace. The idea is that your personal relationship with Jesus makes you a better person. Christians are supposed to behave better. "By these fruits, ye shall know them." in Mathew 7. The Christians in Washington and in the U.S. have shown us their fruits for some time now, and this latest incarnation that has allied itself with Fuck La' Orange' are proving themselves to be downright despicable. Of Christians, most are protestants at a little over 50 percent, and Catholics are almost 25 percent. The second largest church denomination is Southern Baptists Convention followed by Methodists and Mormons, respectively.

This is not a mixed bag. Christianity, in general, has been hemorrhaging members for some time, mostly I think due to issues like this. It isn't just the Internet and being able fact check your pastor in the pew that's a problem The issue is this entwinement between religion and political power, combined with bigotry. People are disgusted and leaving this "personal relationship of love" as they see their leaders champion these ideas. The same is true with the Catholics with regards to the child molestation taking place. All that will be left soon is people with blinders on vigorously chanting "Jesus is love" to themselves, and these bigots that use their religion to justify their awful behavior. Religion in general in the U.S. has become the last place bigots go to hide. If this makes you uncomfortable, it should. The people that are left in these institutions that do not condone their behavior are merely giving cover to them because they still support the underpinning ideas that Christian = morality.

Yep, everyone is a mixed bag. But if that's really true, why bother with identifying as Christian if it makes no distinction to actually do so?

 

[Learner]

I see what you're trying to say, but I think this all too easily lets certain people off the hook. The very idea underpinning most versions of Christianity is that people are awful, and redeemed through grace. The idea is that your personal relationship with Jesus makes you a better person. Christians are supposed to behave better. "By these fruits, ye shall know them." in Mathew 7. The Christians in Washington and in the U.S. have shown us their fruits for some time now, and this latest incarnation that has allied itself with Fuck La' Orange' are proving themselves to be downright despicable. Of Christians, most are protestants at a little over 50 percent, and Catholics are almost 25 percent. The second largest church denomination is Southern Baptists Convention followed by Methodists and Mormons, respectively.

This is not a mixed bag. Christianity, in general, has been hemorrhaging members for some time, mostly I think due to issues like this. It isn't just the Internet and being able fact check your pastor in the pew that's a problem The issue is this entwinement between religion and political power, combined with bigotry. People are disgusted and leaving this "personal relationship of love" as they see their leaders champion these ideas. The same is true with the Catholics with regards to the child molestation taking place. All that will be left soon is people with blinders on vigorously chanting "Jesus is love" to themselves, and these bigots that use their religion to justify their awful behavior. Religion in general in the U.S. has become the last place bigots go to hide. If this makes you uncomfortable, it should. The people that are left in these institutions that do not condone their behavior are merely giving cover to them because they still support the underpinning ideas that Christian = morality.

Yep, everyone is a mixed bag. But if that's really true, why bother with identifying as Christian if it makes no distinction to actually do so?

It says in the NT many will come in Jesus's name - the counterfiets, the false prophets and false teachers. IOW's many Christians know what you're talking about. The best way so far I've seen from other Chrsitians (only possible outside of churches) is exposing them online _ thank Heavens for the internet. Not quite fancy like those expensive programmes made for multi-millions dollar network channels - and you would be right that it may not seem enough making a few vids here and there (talks too in public places) - but their expose on false prophecy (contrary to the teachings) is seen at least by many other Christians. "I've seen them and I've changed" my pespective or have been influenced to know that Jesus IS the only teacher!

Yes you've described pretty much a large section (not all quite the same) of the mainstream churches, all of the above denominations and not forgetting the distorted cult versions that are at odds with the doctrine that also cause harm to people and to the faith.

So What does it leave out of the various denominations you've described? It leaves out those who are independent believers from within (that still go to church) or those outide the church , accepting only Jesus and HIS doctirne. That doesn't mean we are still not sinners of course - its not so easy obviously.

 

[Lion IRC]

In regards to the OP, I personally (like others) certainly do nothing of the kind but we do get inspired (emotionally too) by the scriptures, as Christians do. To be fair .. there are also those uder-the-guise that feed their coffers from the pockets of believers. A mixed bunch of people (as humans variably are, in groups) just like anywhere else I suppose.

Shush Learner.
You're interrupting the atheist feeding frenzy.

...and you know how seldom atheists ever get a chance to talk about religion

 

[Lion IRC]

I used to get banned from gazillions of Undernet IRC #atheism channels because they said religious chat was off-topic. And I'd ask - well why isnt your channel called #sport or #music or #cooking ?
...and why are you always (coincidentally) talking about religion at the exact same moment I join the #channel?

 

[braces_for_impact]

I see what you're trying to say, but I think this all too easily lets certain people off the hook. The very idea underpinning most versions of Christianity is that people are awful, and redeemed through grace. The idea is that your personal relationship with Jesus makes you a better person. Christians are supposed to behave better. "By these fruits, ye shall know them." in Mathew 7. The Christians in Washington and in the U.S. have shown us their fruits for some time now, and this latest incarnation that has allied itself with Fuck La' Orange' are proving themselves to be downright despicable. Of Christians, most are protestants at a little over 50 percent, and Catholics are almost 25 percent. The second largest church denomination is Southern Baptists Convention followed by Methodists and Mormons, respectively.

This is not a mixed bag. Christianity, in general, has been hemorrhaging members for some time, mostly I think due to issues like this. It isn't just the Internet and being able fact check your pastor in the pew that's a problem The issue is this entwinement between religion and political power, combined with bigotry. People are disgusted and leaving this "personal relationship of love" as they see their leaders champion these ideas. The same is true with the Catholics with regards to the child molestation taking place. All that will be left soon is people with blinders on vigorously chanting "Jesus is love" to themselves, and these bigots that use their religion to justify their awful behavior. Religion in general in the U.S. has become the last place bigots go to hide. If this makes you uncomfortable, it should. The people that are left in these institutions that do not condone their behavior are merely giving cover to them because they still support the underpinning ideas that Christian = morality.

Yep, everyone is a mixed bag. But if that's really true, why bother with identifying as Christian if it makes no distinction to actually do so?

It says in the NT many will come in Jesus's name - the counterfiets, the false prophets and false teachers. IOW's many Christians know what you're talking about. The best way so far I've seen from other Chrsitians (only possible outside of churches) is exposing them online _ thank Heavens for the internet. Not quite fancy like those expensive programmes made for multi-millions dollar network channels - and you would be right that it may not seem enough making a few vids here and there (talks too in public places) - but their expose on false prophecy (contrary to the teachings) is seen at least by many other Christians. "I've seen them and I've changed" my pespective or have been influenced to know that Jesus IS the only teacher!

Yes you've described pretty much a large section (not all quite the same) of the mainstream churches, all of the above denominations and not forgetting the distorted cult versions that are at odds with the doctrine that also cause harm to people and to the faith.

So What does it leave out of the various denominations you've described? It leaves out those who are independent believers from within (that still go to church) or those outide the church , accepting only Jesus and HIS doctirne. That doesn't mean we are still not sinners of course - its not so easy obviously.

Ah, I see. Angus puts sugar on his porridge.

 

[Jobar]

For those who seek worldly power using unworldly bullshit, skeptics have always served as serviceable villains. Ask Socrates.

 

[Jobar]

I used to get banned from gazillions of Undernet IRC #atheism channels because they said religious chat was off-topic. And I'd ask - well why isnt your channel called #sport or #music or #cooking ?
...and why are you always (coincidentally) talking about religion at the exact same moment I join the #channel?

Lion, I don't know about the specific sites you speak of- but if you avoid threatening people with hellfire they don't believe in anyway, and try to respond to the actual arguments they make instead of just preaching at them, most of the atheist sites I've seen *want* believers to contribute. I personally find religion a fascinating topic- well, obviously, or I wouldn't post about it so much, huh?

My own experience is that it's much harder for a polite atheist to be accepted at a site run by believers, than it is for a reasonably well-spoken Christian (or Muslim, or Mormon, or Jew, or whatever) to be accepted at sites like this one. We tend to get banned with extreme prejudice, even if we try to conform to the site rules. Just honestly arguing our philosophical opinions is forbidden at Christian Forums, and plenty of others I've joined (or seen other atheists join) in the past.

 

[Learner]

Shush Learner.
You're interrupting the atheist feeding frenzy.

...and you know how seldom atheists ever get a chance to talk about religion

I see Lion ,I couldn't help myself . I don't interrupt on threads "outside" the Religious sections of the forum, unless few times, in some discussions , God etc, slips into the coversation. The "life without religion" section we won't engage in, being the atheists pov's to religion to discuss amongst the other atheists obviously.

 

[Keith&Co.]

We tend to get banned with extreme prejudice, even if we try to conform to the site rules. Just honestly arguing our philosophical opinions is forbidden at Christian Forums, and plenty of others I've joined (or seen other atheists join) in the past.

I've been banned before even making a post, if my online ID is perceived as too 'freethoughty' or 'antitheist.'

But I'm sure that somewhere, atheists ban someone named 'Evolutionisstupid' or some such, on the mistaken assumption he's joining an atheist website intending to be confrontational...

 

[Elixir]

We tend to get banned with extreme prejudice, even if we try to conform to the site rules. Just honestly arguing our philosophical opinions is forbidden at Christian Forums, and plenty of others I've joined (or seen other atheists join) in the past.

I've been banned before even making a post, if my online ID is perceived as too 'freethoughty' or 'antitheist.'

But I'm sure that somewhere, atheists ban someone named 'Evolutionisstupid' or some such, on the mistaken assumption he's joining an atheist website intending to be confrontational...

What user_name were you using, "lettuce spray" or something?

 

[Keith&Co.]

What user_name were you using, "lettuce spray" or something?

Oh, let's see.
Bookmarkmywords was too arrogant, I should promote GOD'S word.
Missiletowe was interpreted as a reference to pagan rituals around mistletoe, though it actually refers to a Towe missile...
Curious was banned without explanation, as was OpenMinds.

One website banned anything that was not readily apparent as your given name, figuring that only trolls use anything else to identify themselves to the entire internet...

I was zonked out on prescription cough medicine one week, and later discovered I had created an account I did not recall, which was banned with instantness. no explanation was offered, nor was one required once I read the email starting with 'Dear FuckYourSister...'

 

[ideologyhunter]

My take: there are plenty of Christians with an inner atheist yearning to emerge. But too much stands in the way, most especially 'splainin' their new-found impiety to their kids or parents or Uncle Joe at the barbecue. I've got to think a lot of them do their churchly duties out of habit but are secretly bored with it all. I've been to church -- never discount the boredom factor. Plus the unsettling feeling that everything the preacher says with such confidence sounds like bedtime stories.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Shush Learner.
You're interrupting the atheist feeding frenzy.

...and you know how seldom atheists ever get a chance to talk about religion

I see Lion ,I couldn't help myself . I don't interrupt on threads "outside" the Religious sections of the forum, unless few times, in some discussions , God etc, slips into the coversation. The "life without religion" section we won't engage in, being the atheists pov's to religion to discuss amongst the other atheists obviously.

This is funny.
If it was sincere, Lion would have privately messaged Learner, without emoji's indicating the pretense of a quiet aside...

But it's a public post because the actual purpose is to tweak the atheists...in a thread saying some theists just NEED atheists...

 

[steve_bank]

In regards to the OP, I personally (like others) certainly do nothing of the kind but we do get inspired (emotionally too) by the scriptures, as Christians do. To be fair .. there are also those uder-the-guise that feed their coffers from the pockets of believers. A mixed bunch of people (as humans variably are, in groups) just like anywhere else I suppose.

Shush Learner.
You're interrupting the atheist feeding frenzy.

...and you know how seldom atheists ever get a chance to talk about religion

While Christians are loath to acknowledge it, there are people who are quite happy without Christianity. To adnit that is to accept that Christianity is not singular.

As to an atheist feeding frenzy, it is a matter of fending off Christian encroachment on our rights. For example Christianity presented in public schools. For example the AG's bizzare quoting scripture to justify separating illegal immigrant families. Making govt policy based on scripture is exactly what the founders wanted to prevent. The vast majority of us under freedom of thought could care less what you believes, as long as you leave us out of it and do not use public services to promote it.

Historically the major threat to Christians have been other Christians. I know Christians who have a deep hate of Catholics and Mormons. Christianity feeds on fear. Fear of hell, fear of satan, and hostility towards atheists. There is a psychological unhealthiness to Christianity.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Historically the major threat to Christians have been other Christians. I know Christians who have a deep hate of Catholics and Mormons. Christianity feeds on fear.

fear and a belief in singular access to The Truth.

The first Churh-State Separation lawsuit was over school prayer.
The plaintiffs were Catholic parents whose children were suffering thru Baptist prayers at school. Intolerable.