Chronicles in Socialism - Venezuela has Elections Sunday

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

It is a picture of an Arab person. It's a picture of the number-one Arab person Derec called a thug, placed for comparison purposes next to a picture of the northern-European-American person that people have been commenting for years on how much the thug looks like. Anybody who calls the guy on the left "brown" and the guy on the right "white" is evidently not doing so based on color vision.

Race is a social construct.

 

[ksen]

So your theory is that Mashal is a vitiligo sufferer?

Nah, my theory is that it's dumb to have this little pedantical argument about who can and who can not be considered a "brown person" and I'm the bigger dummy for falling for it.

 

[Derec]

Race is a social construct.

Obviously, because only that makes this possible:

This is a reference to George Zimmerman being referred to as white in media (also on here, he was even said to look like former German football captain Michael Ballack) while Elizabeth Warren claimed Amerindian ancestry in order to get a job at Harvard.

 

[Derec]

More Hollywood vs. terrorist leader lookalikes.

So many movie opportunities wasted ...
Also the one on the right is definitely not white because ... well because we say so ... and Jesus was black. Or something.

 

[ksen]

More Hollywood vs. terrorist leader lookalikes.

So many movie opportunities wasted ...
Also the one on the right is definitely not white because ... well because we say so ... and Jesus was black. Or something.

The one on the right is persian not arab.

 

[Derec]

The one on the right is persian not arab.

I did not say he was. But he is not European either and thus can't possibly be white according to some.

 

[ksen]

I believe persians are generally acknowledged as being "white".

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Zimmerman is half-Hispanic and half White--a social construction defined by society: referring to "race," i.e. his mother came from a Spanish speaking country and his father was White, but at the same time, his mother also had some European ancestry and non-European ancestry. Since it's a social construct it doesn't have to make complete sense or be 100% rational. So we can alternatively just call Zimmerman Hispanic, just like we can call Obama black even though his mother was White.

 

[Angra Mainyu]

In regular usage "brown" is referencing a person not descended from northern european ancestors.

I believe persians are generally acknowledged as being "white".

Could you clarify that, please?

 

[ksen]

I read it somewhere on the internet.

QED

 

[Derec]

I believe persians are generally acknowledged as being "white".

Could you clarify that, please?

I am confused too. Maybe brown is a shade of white these days.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

That would be illogical. White isn't even a shade of white.

 

[Derec]

That would be illogical. White isn't even a shade of white.

It was tongue in cheek.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Speaking of shades, the 1942 US draft registration listed skin complexion choices as the following:

• Sallow
• Light
• Ruddy
• Dark
• Freckled
• Light Brown
• Dark Brown
• Black

Races, it listed as

• White
• Negro
• Oriental
• Indian
• Filipino

 

[Bomb#20]

Anybody who calls the guy on the left "brown" and the guy on the right "white" is evidently not doing so based on color vision.

Race is a social construct.

Well, it certainly is when you need it to be one in order to rescue a losing argument by socially constructing your opponent as a racist.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Race is a social construct.

Well, it certainly is when you need it to be one in order to rescue a losing argument by socially constructing your opponent as a racist.

Since it is a social construct, any insulting condition you try to add to that is moot.

 

[Angra Mainyu]

Back on the topic of the election, Maduro now claims fraud, and the Supreme Court is <url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/venezuela/12074305/Venezuelan-president-claims-voting-fraud-occurred-in-recent-elections.html>considering his objections to the election of 8 lawmakers.</url>
Given that the SC seems mostly under his control (i.e., most members at least), it seems likely that the MUD will not have a 2/3 majority after all, even though they'll at least have over 3/5, which is something but is nowhere nears as much in terms of power.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Back on the topic of the election, Maduro now claims fraud, and the Supreme Court is <url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/venezuela/12074305/Venezuelan-president-claims-voting-fraud-occurred-in-recent-elections.html>considering his objections to the election of 8 lawmakers.</url>
Given that the SC seems mostly under his control (i.e., most members at least), it seems likely that the MUD will not have a 2/3 majority after all, even though they'll at least have over 3/5, which is something but is nowhere nears as much in terms of power.

From your link:

"I am not going to release preliminary results of the investigation ... There were a lot of things going on. Buying people's votes ... control of members of polling station teams and entire polling station teams," Maduro said on his weekly television show.

That's probably not worse than taking toilet paper to artificially create scarcity.

 

[Derec]

"I am not going to release preliminary results of the investigation ... There were a lot of things going on. Buying people's votes ... control of members of polling station teams and entire polling station teams," Maduro said on his weekly television show.

Sounds like PSUV tactics.

That's probably not worse than taking toilet paper to artificially create scarcity.

You mean shortages created by economically illiterate price and currency control policies.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Sounds like PSUV tactics.

That's probably not worse than taking toilet paper to artificially create scarcity.

You mean shortages created by economically illiterate price and currency control policies.

No that's not what I meant.