# Collapsed Condo

#### Rhea

##### Cyborg with a Tiara
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As a counterpoint, thousands of new orleans residents never returned to n.o. and stayed in Houston.

#### Jimmy Higgins

##### Contributor
I wonder how many hurricanes it will take for the migration north to begin? I'm guessing the big one. Cat 5 directly hitting Miami with massive casualties and displaced people, Then most of them who evacuated won't return. Maybe stay in Orlando or further north. Rebuilding efforts slowed by lack of interest, and further Job losses bleeding the rest of the population out of the city. Rename it Detriot Florida the floating City, not as attractive as Venice.

As a counterpoint, New Orleans still exists.

That's not much of a counterpoint, really.

Katrina was a Cat 4 that came ashore in another state, Mississippi.
Katrina was a Cat 3 that came ashore in Louisiana. Category was less important than the surge and the underbuilt flood protection system.

New Orleans missed the brunt. Had it remained a Cat 5 and hit New Orleans directly, I'm not sure New Orleans would still exist, exactly.
Tom
New Orleans would still exist. Having parts of the city underwater wasn't exactly a near miss (well, George Carlin would disagree with that one).

#### Alcoholic Actuary

##### Senior Member
Blah, none of this matters. In about 100 years satellite pictures of that area will look like a pool full of floaties. Throw another 200 years on that to find Florida appearing on US Maps as several Islands with a new state capitol temporarily thumbtacked on Orlando. As an Orlandoian, I hope my descendants manage to hold & sell my house as a multi-million dollar waterfront property at that time.

I see a lot of death in the future for coastal Florida and it's going to be mostly poor folks (like in the case of this collapse). Miami is going to have it worse than any other City. I wonder how many hurricanes it will take for the migration north to begin? I'm guessing the big one. Cat 5 directly hitting Miami with massive casualties and displaced people, Then most of them who evacuated won't return. Maybe stay in Orlando or further north. Rebuilding efforts slowed by lack of interest, and further Job losses bleeding the rest of the population out of the city. Rename it Detriot Florida the floating City, not as attractive as Venice.

This is just my pessimistic & uninformed pissed-off about a building just falling the fuck down side of me venting.

I think the 100 year timeline is optimistic.

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#### Playball40

##### Veteran Member
I see a lot of death in the future for coastal Florida and it's going to be mostly poor folks (like in the case of this collapse).

You think that poor people live in beach side condominiums with swimming pools!
Tom

Those condos sold for $650K -$700K. Nope, these were not 'poor' people.

#### Playball40

##### Veteran Member
Tomc. Miami consists of more than just beachside condominiums. It's 35.99 sq mi (not including water for now).

I'm aware of that.
I quoted your exact sentence and responded to it.
Tom

fair enough. I was derailing anyway.

Andrew was a CAT 5, hit S. Miami and has come back stronger than ever.

#### TomC

##### Celestial Highness
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I see a lot of death in the future for coastal Florida and it's going to be mostly poor folks (like in the case of this collapse).

You think that poor people live in beach side condominiums with swimming pools!
Tom

Those condos sold for $650K -$700K. Nope, these were not 'poor' people.

You likely know far more about the real estate than I do.

How do you suppose that the HOA tying on a 2 year $16M repair job affect the value of the individual condos? Tom #### Jimmy Higgins ##### Contributor I see a lot of death in the future for coastal Florida and it's going to be mostly poor folks (like in the case of this collapse). You're just adorable sometimes. You think that poor people live in beach side condominiums with swimming pools! Tom Those condos sold for$650K - $700K. Nope, these were not 'poor' people. That actually sounds kind of cheap for 'on the beach' condos. Unless they were real small. #### TomC ##### Celestial Highness Staff member Those condos sold for$650K - \$700K. Nope, these were not 'poor' people.
That actually sounds kind of cheap for 'on the beach' condos. Unless they were real small.

Or the huge expensive problem was no secret.
Tom

#### Elixir

fair enough. I was derailing anyway.

Andrew was a CAT 5, hit S. Miami and has come back stronger than ever.

Miami is about 6½ feet above sea level. N.O. is 1-2 feet below sea level (avg).
Doesn't sound like a lot but ... it's a lot.

#### Jimmy Higgins

##### Contributor
fair enough. I was derailing anyway.

Andrew was a CAT 5, hit S. Miami and has come back stronger than ever.

Miami is about 6½ feet above sea level. N.O. is 1-2 feet below sea level (avg).
Doesn't sound like a lot but ... it's a lot.

#### Gospel

##### Warning Level 9999
fair enough. I was derailing anyway.

Andrew was a CAT 5, hit S. Miami and has come back stronger than ever.

I give Miami another 2 centuries

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#### bilby

##### Fair dinkum thinkum
I give Miami another 2 centuries
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You're much more optimistic than I am.
I don't give civilization much chance of lasting throughout the 2000's.
Tom

People have been predicting the end of the world and collapse of civilisation for at least the last six thousand years.

Civilisations certainly have collapsed in the past; But not civilisation in general. Humans are resilient. Having to abandon a few cities here and there isn't going to be fun, but it won't end civilisation.

#### TomC

##### Celestial Highness
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I give Miami another 2 centuries
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You're much more optimistic than I am.
I don't give civilization much chance of lasting throughout the 2000's.
Tom

People have been predicting the end of the world and collapse of civilisation for at least the last six thousand years.

Civilisations certainly have collapsed in the past; But not civilisation in general. Humans are resilient. Having to abandon a few cities here and there isn't going to be fun, but it won't end civilisation.

True.

But the human race didn't use to have a population of 8 billion, the internet, nuclear(and worse) weapons, toxic environmental conditions, a rapidly changing climate, and a degraded biosphere to contend with.

Now we do. And we're little better able to deal with those challenges than EuroColonialists or the Africans who sold them African slaves.

Humans have always resolved issues with war. It's built into our mental processes. We're not that different from the ancients.
Tom

##### Loony Running The Asylum
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I give Miami another 2 centuries
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You're much more optimistic than I am.
I don't give civilization much chance of lasting throughout the 2000's.
Tom

People have been predicting the end of the world and collapse of civilisation for at least the last six thousand years.

Civilisations certainly have collapsed in the past; But not civilisation in general. Humans are resilient. Having to abandon a few cities here and there isn't going to be fun, but it won't end civilisation.

I'm in probably the best place in the world to get through the climate "apocalypse". Right in the middle of the largest bodies of fresh water in the world.

Suck it, bitches.

#### Gospel

##### Warning Level 9999
I give Miami another 2 centuries
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You're much more optimistic than I am.
I don't give civilization much chance of lasting throughout the 2000's.
Tom

People have been predicting the end of the world and collapse of civilisation for at least the last six thousand years.

Civilisations certainly have collapsed in the past; But not civilisation in general. Humans are resilient. Having to abandon a few cities here and there isn't going to be fun, but it won't end civilisation.

I didn't say it would be the end of the world. I said it would be the end of Miami. Gosh

Edit: Sorry, saw you are replying to TomC. Shame on me