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Columbia University is colluding with the far-right in its attack on students

In other words, unsubstantiated allegations from members of Palestinian groups written about in a student newspaper.
The NYPD investigated the reported chemical attack and the student responsible was suspended, which he thinks is unfair because he says it was a novelty gag spray, and never mind that it's still assault to spray that shit at people and appears to have been done to disrupt a peaceful political protest.

I'm sure Columbia's Code of Conduct forbids students from spraying chemical irritants at each other.
 
Some people are more dedicated to these kinds of subjects than you are.
Some people are dedicated to memorizing baseball statistics. So what?

Ok so they know baseball more than you.

I don't care and it is irrelevant.
Of course his radical political views are relevant. If he was far-right MAGA, you wouldn't disagree with that.

Whether he's far or centrist his views in the video are on-topic.

You mean a SELF-HATING JEW, right? Right?
Self-hatred is endemic on the far-left. Anti-white whites, anti-American Americans etc.

Wow, why don't you just call us race traitors?

Someone hasn't been following the thread.
It's a long thread. But Arctish posted an article. There are some unsubstantiated allegations, but you presented it as fact.
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There are photos.
 
The NYPD investigated the reported chemical attack and the student responsible was suspended, which he thinks is unfair because he says it was a novelty gag spray, and never mind that it's still assault to spray that shit at people and appears to have been done to disrupt a peaceful political protest.
Yeah, a novelty "fart spray" is very different than the original accusation of crowd-control "skunk" having been used. LMAO.
Go ahead and L your AO.

It doesn't matter if it was Chanel No. 5. You can't just go around spraying smelly concoctions at people. He earned his suspension.
 
Ok so they know baseball more than you.
So? It's still trivial.

Whether he's far or centrist his views in the video are on-topic.
I did not say they were off topic, but that his extremist views affect his view about Gaza war against Israel. Just like Russia attacked Ukraine, Gaza attacked Israel. Let's not forget that.

Wow, why don't you just call us race traitors?
What do you mean by that term? I do not think being racist against your own race is in any way admirable. Do you?

There are photos.
Apparently it was just a gag "fart spray" somebody sprayed around. A big nothingburger.
Far cry from the original allegation, which is that crowd control "skunk spray" was used.
 
He probably lied it was fart spray. If it was he'd not have to hide it for such a long time before getting his story straight.
 
By the way, up in Canada these protesters are not even pretending any more that they are not supporting terrorism.

'Long live October 7': Vancouver protesters praise terrorist groups

Jerusalem Post said:
Charlotte Kates, the international coordinator for the allegedly Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-affiliated (PFLP) Samidoun Palestinian Prisoner Solidarity Network, led demonstrators in a chant proclaiming "Long live October 7."[...]
Kates glorified the "Beautiful, brave and heroic resistance of the Palestinian people, which did not begin on October 7, which has continued for over 75 years, which has continued over 120 years."
"It is long past time to delist Palestinian and Lebanese resistance organizations from Canada's so-called list of terrorist entities," said Kates. "Hamas is not a terrorist organization, [Palestinian} Islamic Jihad is not a terrorist organization, PFLP is not a terrorist organization, Hezbollah is not a terrorist organization. These are resistance fighters. These are our heroes."
 
Apparently it was just a gag "fart spray" somebody sprayed around. A big nothingburger.
Far cry from the original allegation, which is that crowd control "skunk spray" was used.
Not a nothingburger.

People have been hospitalized with respiratory distress from being exposed to smelly aerosols like perfumes and fart spray.

You can wave your hands till the cows come home, spraying that stuff in close proximity to other people is still assault.
 
The NYPD investigated the reported chemical attack and the student responsible was suspended, which he thinks is unfair because he says it was a novelty gag spray, and never mind that it's still assault to spray that shit at people and appears to have been done to disrupt a peaceful political protest.
Yeah, a novelty "fart spray" is very different than the original accusation of crowd-control "skunk" having been used. LMAO.
Why would you take the self-serving unsubstantiated statement of an arrested protester as gospel?
 
D.C. police just schooled a university on freedom of speech rights

D.C. police showed the rest of America how to respond to this historic wave of campus protests across the nation: They did nothing.

And it was perfect.

While other police forces are providing highlight reels of enforcers marching on university quads in riot gear (from California to New York, Illinois to Texas) or galloping in on horseback (just Texas), officers carrying and dragging students away or shockingly slamming an Emory University professor to the ground in Georgia, the cops here in the nation’s capital gave the ivory tower a lesson in constitutional rights.

“This activity has remained peaceful,” a D.C. police spokesperson said, explaining why there have been no arrests at the George Washington University campus, despite the administration’s request for backup.

So far, at least 900 people have been arrested on U.S. campuses during protests over Israel’s actions in Gaza. And in nearly every case, the demonstrations were peaceful and nonviolent until law enforcement showed up.
 
He probably lied it was fart spray. If it was he'd not have to hide it for such a long time before getting his story straight.
There is no evidence that it was "skunk". Why do you think he "probably lied"?

I already said why. He took a long time to get his story straight. Not to mention people had symptoms inconsistent with his claim.
 
Paris

Article

"We set up tents ... like in several U.S. universities," Sorbonne student Louis Maziere said. "We're doing all we can to raise awareness about what is happening in Palestine, about the ongoing genocide in Gaza."

"Police then came running in, brought down tents, grabbed students by the collar and dragged them on the ground, that's not OK... We're quite shocked," he said.
 
Columbia students suspended again:


Columbia suspends pro-Palestinian protesters after encampment talks stall

NEW YORK, April 29 (Reuters) - Columbia University on Monday began suspending pro-Palestinian student activists who refused to dismantle a protest camp on the New York City campus after the Ivy League school declared a stalemate in talks seeking to end the polarizing demonstration.

University President Nemat Minouche Shafik said in a statement that days of negotiations between student organizers and academic leaders had failed to persuade demonstrators to remove the dozens of tents set up to express opposition to Israel's war in Gaza.
 
I know or assume that some of these protests are peaceful. I assume that some aren't taking over buildings or yelling hateful remarks and/or threats at others, but I found an example of one of the worst and I want to share the rest of my free articles fro April, even if nobody bothers to read them. This isn't a peaceful, legitimate protest, it's chaos. It's taking over buildings and destroying property. There are more details in the article and I seriously doubt it will accomplish anything. In fact, despite protesting the Viet Nam War myself, in a very peaceful way, I don't think protests usually accomplish much of anything, other than making the protesters feel good about themselves. If these students want to do something helpful, they can donate to one of the organizations that are giving aide to the Palestinians.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/29/...e_code=1.oU0.XXZa.Um6J76-Lnb1e&smid=url-share

When university administrators across the nation worry about the potential fallout from campus protests, they may have Siemens Hall in mind.

The building at California State Polytechnic University, Humboldt, includes the campus president’s office and has been occupied for a week by pro-Palestinian protesters who barricaded themselves inside and fought off an early attempt by the police to remove them. Protesters have since tagged walls and renamed it “Intifada Hall” by ripping off most of the signage on the brick exterior.

Inside, they painted graffiti messages like “Time 2 Free Gaza,” “Pigs Not Allowed,” and “Land Back,” according to a video posted by the local news site Redheaded Blackbelt. They occupied and defaced the office of the president, Tom Jackson Jr., spraying “Blood On Your Hands” across one framed wall hanging and “I Will Live Free or Die Trying” on his door.

The school, situated more than 275 miles north of San Francisco among the ancient coastal redwoods that drip with fog mist, is the site of the nation’s most entrenched campus protest. It has gone well beyond the encampments seen on many college quads elsewhere; at Cal Poly Humboldt, protesters took over the power center of the campus and have rejected increasingly desperate entreaties from officials for them to vacate the premises.

On Sunday night, the president’s team again asked them to “leave the campus peacefully now,” but this time with no offer of immunity.

The university said in a statement that the protest had “nothing to do with free speech or freedom of inquiry” and called the protests “lawless behavior” that harmed students, damaged the school’s reputation and “drained resources from the accomplishment of our core educational purpose.”

Demonstrators see it differently.

“The graffiti, the destruction of property, all of that is a poetic symbolism to me, because the ultimate overall point is that people are more valuable than property,” said Cozy Hunter, 32, a graduate student in social psychology academic research.

In 2019, Mr. Jackson became the president at Humboldt after having served the same role at Black Hills State University in South Dakota. Mr. Jackson, a veteran of the U.S. Coast Guard Reserve, was instrumental in transforming the campus into a polytechnic university, one of three in California, that places an added emphasis on STEM disciplines. The revamp came with $458 million from the state, a welcome infusion of cash at a school that was at risk of closure as enrollment declined over the years.
 
Columbia students suspended again:


Columbia suspends pro-Palestinian protesters after encampment talks stall

NEW YORK, April 29 (Reuters) - Columbia University on Monday began suspending pro-Palestinian student activists who refused to dismantle a protest camp on the New York City campus after the Ivy League school declared a stalemate in talks seeking to end the polarizing demonstration.

University President Nemat Minouche Shafik said in a statement that days of negotiations between student organizers and academic leaders had failed to persuade demonstrators to remove the dozens of tents set up to express opposition to Israel's war in Gaza.
Columbia students barricading themselves (link is via Wash-Po). This is going in the wrong direction. Instead of treating these people like adults and expecting them to act reasoned, the campus seems to have fucked up. The students are acting like the children they were treated like.

I think the danger to Jewish students is overspoken, I'd be more worried about the demonstrators doing more harm to themselves. I think the only option at this point is to walk away from it. If the Hall is expendable, expend it for a bit, let them have their moment with no one looking.
 
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