Come Hell or High Water: You go, Milo!

[whichphilosophy]

Just his idiot fans. But there will be no controversy - which is what that attention whore thrives on.

In fact tell enough people not to attend an event and they will turn up.

Try reading with comprehension before you post your response. "Encourage" is not "tell".

This is really semantics as these definitions will cross over in practice. To tell someone is to relay information, information to someone in spoken or written words. Give instructions to someone (tell them etc) can sometimes feature.

Encouragement is not the same as giving instructions.

In a true democracy people can choose not to turn up to his performances, not have them shut down by Marxist censorship.

Why are you babbling about "Marxist censorship"?

Telling can sometimes involve instructions. Encouraging can sometimes include telling people not to do something (aka advice). Haven't you noticed the Hammer and Sycles that sometimes appear in ANTIFA and BAMN mobs.

To extremists, encouragement comes through the barrel of a gun.

There is no reason to continue to babble.

I suggest you join the communist party, or say BANM or CPUSA for a few weeks. Tell is the only language.

 

[laughing dog]

I suggest you join the communist party, or say BANM or CPUSA for a few weeks. Tell is the only language.

Really, stop babbling.

 

[whichphilosophy]

I suggest you join the communist party, or say BANM or CPUSA for a few weeks. Tell is the only language.

Really, stop babbling.

If you don't know the roots of BANM, ANTIFA CPUSA and others you would not see this. Their agenda is very clear.

 

[laughing dog]

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If you don't know the roots of BANM, ANTIFA CPUSA and others you would not see this. Their agenda is very clear.

Oh no, now you are babbling about your Marxists under the bed obsession.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

from the op:

Mogulof said the events that had been proposed, if not backed by a student group would need to comply with guidelines for outdoor campus events.

Those include a requirement that the events be “academically driven.” Yiannopoulos’s plans, Mogulof said, would not meet that standard.

He is, however, allowed to speak on the public campus as a private citizen.

 

[skepticalbip]

from the op:

Mogulof said the events that had been proposed, if not backed by a student group would need to comply with guidelines for outdoor campus events.

Those include a requirement that the events be “academically driven.” Yiannopoulos’s plans, Mogulof said, would not meet that standard.

He is, however, allowed to speak on the public campus as a private citizen.

The “Free Speech Week” had been planned and approved, organized by Berkeley students and approved by Berkeley. Several speakers had already been lined up and confirmed. It was canceled by Berkeley the day before it was scheduled to began.

It is a real shame to see the home of the free speech movement, Berkeley, yield to (or maybe support) those who would violently oppose freedom of speech.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

It was canceled by Berkeley the day before it was scheduled to began.

from the op:

The student group planning to hold a “Free Speech Week” at the University of California at Berkeley canceled the event Saturday, the day before it was expected to begin.

You wrote that Berkeley cancelled the event, but the op says the student group cancelled it. The student group is claiming it was pressured and had unfair hurdles. That is a claim not yet proven in a court process.

So what student group is backing him?

If none, does he comply with guidelines for outdoor campus event--such as the event being "academically driven?"

If no student group is backing him and he does not comply with guidelines, then is he still allowed to speak as a private citizen?

If he is allowed to speak as a private citizen, then how is his free speech being violated?

 

[whichphilosophy]

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If you don't know the roots of BANM, ANTIFA CPUSA and others you would not see this. Their agenda is very clear.

Oh no, now you are babbling about your Marxists under the bed obsession.

BAMN is Marxist; ANTIFA contains Marxists and the CPUSA is the Communist Party USA. I will gladly list the infiltration methodology such groups use.

The Marxists are not under the they're in the bed. The rioters in the forefront are all taking it in the back as they are fighting non existent Nazi bogeymen.

 

[whichphilosophy]

from the op:

Mogulof said the events that had been proposed, if not backed by a student group would need to comply with guidelines for outdoor campus events.

Those include a requirement that the events be “academically driven.” Yiannopoulos’s plans, Mogulof said, would not meet that standard.

He is, however, allowed to speak on the public campus as a private citizen.

The Washington Post also stated

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...till-coming-to-campus/?utm_term=.bddb235594e4

At attorney for students from Berkeley Patriot, the student group that invited Yiannopoulos, wrote in a letter to campus officials that the students had been “subjected to extraordinary pressure and resistance, if not outright hostility,” from university officials since announcing their intention to host the event.

The group was canceling plans for the events, which had been expected to begin Sunday and end Wednesday, solely because of the actions of the university, Marguerite Melo wrote.

So as on previous occasions he has been invited by student groups to speak.

Smells like political correctness disguised as protocol.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

from the op:

The Washington Post also stated

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...till-coming-to-campus/?utm_term=.bddb235594e4

At attorney for students from Berkeley Patriot, the student group that invited Yiannopoulos, wrote in a letter to campus officials that the students had been “subjected to extraordinary pressure and resistance, if not outright hostility,” from university officials since announcing their intention to host the event.

The group was canceling plans for the events, which had been expected to begin Sunday and end Wednesday, solely because of the actions of the university, Marguerite Melo wrote.

So as on previous occasions he has been invited by student groups to speak.

Smells like political correctness disguised as protocol.

This is a claim by such student group and has not gone to court yet, but moreover, Milo is still going to go as a private citizen to speak and thus his political free speech is not blocked.

 

[laughing dog]

Oh no, now you are babbling about your Marxists under the bed obsession.

BAMN is Marxist; ANTIFA contains Marxists and the CPUSA is the Communist Party USA. I will gladly list the infiltration methodology such groups use.

The Marxists are not under the they're in the bed. The rioters in the forefront are all taking it in the back as they are fighting non existent Nazi bogeymen.

Please stop babbling about your Marxist bogeymen.

 

[skepticalbip]

The Washington Post also stated

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...till-coming-to-campus/?utm_term=.bddb235594e4

At attorney for students from Berkeley Patriot, the student group that invited Yiannopoulos, wrote in a letter to campus officials that the students had been “subjected to extraordinary pressure and resistance, if not outright hostility,” from university officials since announcing their intention to host the event.

The group was canceling plans for the events, which had been expected to begin Sunday and end Wednesday, solely because of the actions of the university, Marguerite Melo wrote.

So as on previous occasions he has been invited by student groups to speak.

Smells like political correctness disguised as protocol.

This is a claim by such student group and has not gone to court yet, but moreover, Milo is still going to go as a private citizen to speak and thus his political free speech is not blocked.

A claim that any reasonable person would accept. Those students had been working for months setting up this event. It is difficult to image that they would, the day before, decide, "on never mind" without severe external pressure.

The other speakers that were scheduled are apparently not going though. So Berkeley students will be deprived of the opportunity to hear their views that do not conform to those of the extreme left.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

This is a claim by such student group and has not gone to court yet, but moreover, Milo is still going to go as a private citizen to speak and thus his political free speech is not blocked.

The other speakers that were scheduled are apparently not going though. So Berkeley students will be deprived of the opportunity to hear their views that do not conform to those of the extreme left.

They are free to go as private citizens and speak and therefore, their constitutional rights are not being blocked.

 

[skepticalbip]

The other speakers that were scheduled are apparently not going though. So Berkeley students will be deprived of the opportunity to hear their views that do not conform to those of the extreme left.

They are free to go as private citizens and speak and therefore, their constitutional rights are not being blocked.

You are completely missing the point... on purpose????

It is about Berkeley, a public government funded university, selecting on political grounds which speakers they allow to give talks in their auditoriums.

 

[laughing dog]

They are free to go as private citizens and speak and therefore, their constitutional rights are not being blocked.

You are completely missing the point... on purpose????

It is about Berkeley, a public university, selecting on political grounds which speakers they allow to give talks in their auditoriums.

I thought the issue was that Berkeley thinks it cannot provide adequate security to insure the safety of all participants.

 

[sharon45]

Those students had been working for months setting up this event.

What a big waste of time and resources over a frivolous sideshow.

 

[skepticalbip]

You are completely missing the point... on purpose????

It is about Berkeley, a public university, selecting on political grounds which speakers they allow to give talks in their auditoriums.

I thought the issue was that Berkeley thinks it cannot provide adequate security to insure the safety of all participants.

Public safety is the responsibility of city, county, and/or state police. If Berkeley doesn't think it is capable then it is their responsibility to contact the appropriate agency. Berkeley's responsibility is to not concede to the demands of violent extremists.

 

[Arctish]

They are free to go as private citizens and speak and therefore, their constitutional rights are not being blocked.

You are completely missing the point... on purpose????

It is about Berkeley, a public university, selecting on political grounds which speakers they allow to give talks in their auditoriums.

From the OP article:

University spokesman Dan Mogulof said, “It is extremely unfortunate that this announcement was made at the last minute, even as the University was in the process of spending significant sums of money and preparing for substantial disruption of campus life to provide the needed security for these events.

“Claims that this is somehow the outcome desired by the campus are without basis in fact. The University was prepared to do whatever was necessary to support the First Amendment rights of the student organization.”

He said that claims that the university had sought to put speakers in harm’s way were unfortunate. “We were in the process of spending what could have amounted to a sum well in excess of one million dollars to make these events safe.”

Also, it sounds like poor planning on the part of the group arranging the event was at least partly to blame:

Confusion about speakers — some who were announced said they had never even been invited, and some who had planned to attend changed plans in recent days — added to last-minute uncertainty this week.

And the specific reason the student planners cancelled the event was lack of a guarantee of safety:

This morning, Melo said, she and the students concluded they could not ensure the safety of the remaining speakers. “They made the decision on the side of safety and having their free speech rights stifled,” she said.

The University was prepared to spend more than a million bucks on security for the event but that wasn't good enough for some reason, therefore the cancellation is all the fault of Liberals?

I think Berkeley got trolled.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Wow.

The speakers are all still free to show up and speak as private citizens.

It is amazing how entitled the right-wing is sometimes to think they can just get free money for doing nothing and when they don't get it because the don't follow the rules, pretend their rights are being taken away--false flag snowflakes.

I guess this works when you are trying to draw attention and build a movement of alt-righters and other assorted Nazis.

 

[skepticalbip]

Wow.

The speakers are all still free to show up and speak as private citizens.

It is amazing how entitled the right-wing is sometimes to think they can just get free money for doing nothing and when they don't get it because the don't follow the rules, pretend their rights are being taken away--false flag snowflakes.

I guess this works when you are trying to draw attention and build a movement of alt-righters and other assorted Nazis.

So I repeat...

"You are completely missing the point... on purpose????

It is about Berkeley, a public government funded university, selecting on political grounds which speakers they allow to give talks in their auditoriums."

Students at public universities should be able to invite speakers of any political persuasion they wish to hear.