EricK
Senior Member
For the purposes of this thread, please take it as given that having sex with a person too drunk to consent, even if they are conscious, is equivalent to rape. If you wish to argue that it isn't rape, then start your own thread!
Now there are many other things, other than having sex, that would be illegal/immoral if you forced someone else to do them. Are they equally illegal/immoral if the person is conscious but too drunk to consent?
Example 1: forcing someone to smoke a cigarette would be illegal - some sort of assault, I assume. If a very drunk person asks you for a cigarette, are you committing the same sort of assault if you agree to give them one? Does it matter if they have been smoking all evening?
Example 2: forcing someone to get into your car is illegal, and would probably be considered to be kidnapping. If you offer a very drunk person a lift home from the bar, are you equally guilty? What if they ask you for a lift home?
I'm sure you can think of your own examples.
If, in your opinion, some kinds of things would be illegal/immoral and others wouldn't what is the reason for the difference?
Now there are many other things, other than having sex, that would be illegal/immoral if you forced someone else to do them. Are they equally illegal/immoral if the person is conscious but too drunk to consent?
Example 1: forcing someone to smoke a cigarette would be illegal - some sort of assault, I assume. If a very drunk person asks you for a cigarette, are you committing the same sort of assault if you agree to give them one? Does it matter if they have been smoking all evening?
Example 2: forcing someone to get into your car is illegal, and would probably be considered to be kidnapping. If you offer a very drunk person a lift home from the bar, are you equally guilty? What if they ask you for a lift home?
I'm sure you can think of your own examples.
If, in your opinion, some kinds of things would be illegal/immoral and others wouldn't what is the reason for the difference?