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Here's the insane sick video for all to see. Just imagine if Trump said this. The hatred from the left would be undeniable.

Jokes would be running wild. "Trump obviously wants to screw animals!! The sick man!!! This is what the conservatives give us!!!!"

What did leftists say about Cenk's remarks?

"Bestiality isn't really a big deal if you think logically about it."

"Let's focus on his healthcare policies instead." <---- haha this one pings the irony meter up to 100!!

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6CPtgPfdgM[/YOUTUBE]
 
Meh. It's legal over here as far as I can tell (leaving aside public health laws that might make some of those actions illegal, or cruelty, but that does not seem to be what he is talking about). What's the big deal?

I mean, sure he should not have said that if he wanted to improve his chances of being elected, but I mean, apart from the really weird timing, why should it be banned?

At any rate, he did not say he was planning to legalize it (if he did, his plans would be limited to federal law, and as such, so it would remain illegal nearly everywhere in the US).
 
Hehehe, the establishment politicians (left and right) are so scared of Cenk they have been going over everything he has ever recorded or written to find anything they can take out of context, or was talked about in jest, to smear him.

So far they have brought up sexist stuff he posted in a blog way back when he was a young republican, and had deleted 15 years ago. They have brought up his interview with David Duke and tried to make it sound like he was a supporter. Think they have tried to bring up how he didn’t believe in the Arminian genocide, ignoring that his co-host, an Arminian, convinced him of the facts some years ago.


Another case of people trying to call liberals hypocrites by ignoring or making up facts, removing context and/or nuance, or using straw men.
 
marc said:
Hehehe, the establishment politicians (left and right) are so scared of Cenk they have been going over everything he has ever recorded or written to find anything they can take out of context, or was talked about in jest, to smear him.

So far they have brought up sexist stuff he posted in a blog way back when he was a young republican, and had deleted 15 years ago. They have brought up his interview with David Duke and tried to make it sound like he was a supporter. Think they have tried to bring up how he didn’t believe in the Arminian genocide, ignoring that his co-host, an Arminian, convinced him of the facts some years ago.


Another case of people trying to call liberals hypocrites by ignoring or making up facts, removing context and/or nuance, or using straw men.
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If he's so sorry about the genocide, why is his company named The Young Turks, which is the name of the group that did the Armenian genocide? He condemns Nazi's but his own channel name might as well be, "The Young Hitlers." The guy's a loon.

And why would anyone be scared of Cenk? I thought you guys claim that money buys elections. So, why would you claim the people with the most money are the most scared of him? Leftist logic is so backwards and head spinning.
 
They should show his interview with Sam Harris. That's what turned me away from TYT. Or show his attempted assault on Alex Jones. That was pretty bad too, though in that latter case he got played and reacted a number of others would. In the Sam Harris interview, Cenk was just being dishonest and smearing much as people are now doing to him.
 
Beastiality isn't all that big a deal. I mean, in most cases it amounts to animal abuse, and animal abuse should explicitly be illegal. But for a large number of cases (see: Mr Hands - or don't, it's NSFL), it's more just a case of self-degradation. When we consider that we slaughter, imprison, kill, eat, rape, and factory farm animals, giving an animal an orgasm just doesn't even warrant consideration as a criminal act.

It's abnormal and pretty messed up, and it's an ethical minefield with all ways it could quickly BECOME animal abuse, but I don't really think we need a law specifically making the act illegal. It strikes me as the sort of thing that does just fine as a social taboo, like fucking your cousin-mother-grandmother; even if it wasn't enough to stop it happening [mod edit], it's more than enough to.prevemt it from being widespread, and we can still prosecute and take his mother-grandmother-wife and put her into protective custody when we find her chained in his basement.
 
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Half-Life said:
If he's so sorry about the genocide, why is his company named The Young Turks, which is the name of the group that did the Armenian genocide?
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He's never given a good answer to that.

I used to like him. I still like his stance against money in politics. His "Wolfpac" thing about it isn't bad at all. And he does champion some progressive messaging and causes, including Bernie Sanders. I'm with him on that. But he's also a bit of a hack prone to doing the same smearing that is now happening to him.... so there is a bit of poetic justice here.
 
Jolly_Penguin said:
Half-Life said:
If he's so sorry about the genocide, why is his company named The Young Turks, which is the name of the group that did the Armenian genocide?
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He's never given a good answer to that.

I used to like him. I still like his stance against money in politics. His "Wolfpac" thing about it isn't bad at all. And he does champion some progressive messaging and causes, including Bernie Sanders. I'm with him on that. But he's also a bit of a hack prone to doing the same smearing that is now happening to him.... so there is a bit of poetic justice here.
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The term Young Turk has been used as an idiom in the English language for less than one hundred years, though the origin goes back to a time well before. ... A Young Turk is a young person who is impatient to bring about radical change, someone who has revolutionary, new ideas and is impatient to implement them.
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CU is of Turkish nationality. What more do you need?
 
Jarhyn said:
Beastiality isn't all that big a deal. I mean, in most cases it amounts to animal abuse, and animal abuse should explicitly be illegal. But for a large number of cases (see: Mr Hands - or don't, it's NSFL), it's more just a case of self-degradation. When we consider that we slaughter, imprison, kill, eat, rape, and factory farm animals, giving an animal an orgasm just doesn't even warrant consideration as a criminal act.
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Pretty sure you are allowed to medically and scientifically jack off a horse. Just can't do it for pleasure.

It's abnormal and pretty messed up, and it's an ethical minefield with all ways it could quickly BECOME animal abuse, but I don't really think we need a law specifically making the act illegal.
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In the video, the dude asks 'Where's the harm?' I actually think it's a good question. It would be a very bizarre conversation, and I am willing to admit there are likely many cases where there is no harm, or perhaps much less harm than acts we easily accept as reasonable or even moral.

Still, I feel like this is one of those cases where a blanket prohibition is just fine.
 
I think I'm with Jarhyn on this one. Short of abusing the animal, I don't see anything inherently wrong with having sex with one..... if they engage in it willingly. I'm against raping animals. I suppose there's the question of if they can consent, but I think if they aren't moving away from it, and especially if they initiate it or are pushing into it... that's a good sign that they are. Its disgusting, yes... but I can't find any moral issue with it or reason to outlaw it. Eating your own poop is disgusting too. Its not illegal.
 
To address the OP video, I turned it off when the first thing the narrator started off with is immaturely making fun of CU's name. I didn't expect it to get any better.
 
Jolly_Penguin said:
I think I'm with Jarhyn on this one. Short of abusing the animal, I don't see anything inherently wrong with having sex with one..... if they engage in it willingly. I'm against raping animals. I suppose there's the question of if they can consent, but I think if they aren't moving away from it, and especially if they initiate it or are pushing into it... that's a good sign that they are. Its disgusting, yes... but I can't find any moral issue with it or reason to outlaw it. Eating your own poop is disgusting too. Its not illegal.
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But that's pretty much where it's at. How would we define consent in a meaningful way which allows us to differentiate between abuse and fluffy* good times? In practical terms, I don't think we can. We could ignore bestiality, or we could prohibit it, but I don't think we could arbitrate which cases were consensual (or even just not-abusive) and which were not.

*or furry, feathery, scaly etc.
 
ZiprHead said:
The term Young Turk has been used as an idiom in the English language for less than one hundred years, though the origin goes back to a time well before. ... A Young Turk is a young person who is impatient to bring about radical change, someone who has revolutionary, new ideas and is impatient to implement them.
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CU is of Turkish nationality. What more do you need?
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And this use is not a new thing. It is the reason for part of the name of the 1985 movie Turk 182. An excellent film btw
 
krypton iodine sulfur said:
Jolly_Penguin said:
I think I'm with Jarhyn on this one. Short of abusing the animal, I don't see anything inherently wrong with having sex with one..... if they engage in it willingly. I'm against raping animals. I suppose there's the question of if they can consent, but I think if they aren't moving away from it, and especially if they initiate it or are pushing into it... that's a good sign that they are. Its disgusting, yes... but I can't find any moral issue with it or reason to outlaw it. Eating your own poop is disgusting too. Its not illegal.
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But that's pretty much where it's at. How would we define consent in a meaningful way which allows us to differentiate between abuse and fluffy* good times? In practical terms, I don't think we can. We could ignore bestiality, or we could prohibit it, but I don't think we could arbitrate which cases were consensual (or even just not-abusive) and which were not.

*or furry, feathery, scaly etc.
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Its definitely problematic since they can't talk, and would be hard to prove since they can't be witnesses in court, but I think we could, to an extent tell if its consensual. Are you tying the animal down? Is it trying to get away from you? Is it initiating? etc (by you I don't mean you specifically; not accusing you of anything here lol)
 
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