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Carolyn Maloney was born in 1946, making her 75 years old this year. From Ballotpedia, her career:
  • 2013-Present: U.S. Representative from New York's 12th Congressional District
  • 1993-2013: U.S. Representative from New York's 14th Congressional District
  • 1982-1992: New York city council
  • 1980-1982: Director of special projects, office of the New York state senate minority leader
  • 1979-1982: Executive director, advisory council, office of the New York state senate minority leader
  • 1977-1979: Senior program analyst, New York state assembly committee on cities
  • 1977: Staff, New York state assembly committee on housing
  • 1975-1976: Staff, New York, N.Y., board of education center for career and occupational education
  • 1972-1975: Community affairs coordinator, New York, N.Y., board of education welfare education program
  • 1968: Graduated from Greensboro College with a B.A.
She has been in Congress for 28 years, and she is currently head of the House Oversight Committee, succeeding Elijah Cummings after his death.

The REAL Progressive Candidates Directory of 2021-2022 – Progressive Graffiti
  1. Real progressive candidates reject corporate money.
  2. Real progressive candidates support universal healthcare, like single-payer Medicare for All.
Since it is a directory, it may list more than one candidate for the same seat.
 
Brand New Congress on Twitter: "Last year we befriended the good folks at @BNBundestag, a grassroots progressive org looking to elect unbought community leaders to the German parliament. They just had their first election & THREE of their candidates won. Amazing victory for the global progressive movement!💜✊" / Twitter
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Brand New Bundestag on Twitter: "3 years after @BrandNew535 successfully supported @AOC to #KnockDownTheHouse we are honored to announce our 3 candidates @rasha_nasr_, @kassem_ts & @ArmandZorn to become members of the German parliament. #btw21" / Twitter

Brand New Bundestag (@BNBundestag) / Twitter
...findet progressive Kandidat:innen und unterstützt sie auf ihrem Weg ins Parlament.
...finds progressive candidates and supports them on their way to parliament. (Google Translate)

Brand New Bundestag on Twitter: "BÄM 💥 Wir machen den Bundestag bunter, weiblicher, jünger: Mit @rasha_nasr_ (SPD), @ArmandZorn (SPD) und @kassem_ts (GRÜNE) sind 3 von 11 unserer unterstützten Kandidierenden drin #btw21" / Twitter
"BÄM 💥 We make the Bundestag more colorful, more feminine, younger: Mit @rasha_nasr_ (SPD), @ArmandZorn (SPD) und @kassem_ts (GREEN) 3 out of 11 of our supported candidates are in it #btw21"

SPD = Social Democratic Party of Germany. Germany's Green Party is bigger and more mainstream than the US Green Party.

Seems like Brand New Bundestag works much like Brand New Congress: running its candidates inside of existing political parties rather than creating a new party.

Brand New Bundestag | Unabhängig & Überparteilich
Unabhängig, überparteilich und jede Menge Power: Bring mit uns neue Politiker:innen ins Parlament.
Independent, non-partisan and lots of power: Bring new politicians with us to parliament. (GT)
 
Brand New Congress has now endorsed Odessa Kelly for TN-05, alongside Justice Democrats.

Election Results Summary | NYC Board of Elections - under "New York Democratic Borough President New York" is how well Lindsey Boylan did in running for Manhattan Borough President.

How she did in each round:
  1. #4, 10.3%
  2. #4, 10.3%
  3. #4, 11.6%
  4. #5, 12.5%
She dropped out in the fifth round, and the final round was the seventh.

Rachel Ventura is now running for Illinois House District 45.


National Ranked Choice Voting — Jesse for New York
Issues | Ridley for Congress - also mentions RCV
Issues | Rev Wendy for Congress | Washington DC - also mentions RCV
TERM LIMITS | ANTHONY DILIZIA - for Congress: 3 House terms and 2 Senate terms
Long Term Constitutional Changes — Jeffrey Phillips for Congress
  • National Popular Vote - for electing the President
  • Ranked Choice Voting & Proportional Representation - including mixed-member PR for the Senate
  • Digital Privacy
  • Statehood - every state should have at least 2 million people, and Puerto Rico should be admitted as a state
  • Overcompetition between states - extending tax breaks and outright grants to get businesses to move there
  • Tax evasion - hiding assets in foreign tax havens
  • Wealth tax
 
Nina Turner: OH-11 Race Came Down To ‘Anyone But Nina’, Files Campaign Papers For Possible 2022 Run - YouTube - Shontel Brown was the one that the Democratic establishment chose to support.

She has not declared herself to be in the race, but she has made it so that she can easily do so.

Nina Turner says pro-Israel businessman called on her to ‘disavow the Squad’ — leading to Ohio loss – Mondoweiss
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Deconstructed: Nina Turner on Her Loss and Future
... And I was told very early on by very well-connected people in the political world and in Cleveland that there was going to be a “Anybody but Nina” campaign launched, and that they were going to come at me with a type of firepower unseen in an election of this type.

And what I mean by that, the seat is securely Democrat. So for more corporatist Dems, or people who are “any blue will do,” it shouldn’t have mattered, because the seat was gonna go to a Democrat. And what that person told me, as we know, now turned out to be true: 13 people in the race, and all of the firepower came in against me. And it was clear that Ms. Brown was the selected one; I think it could have been any of the other candidates — at least maybe two or three of the other candidates. So it was not so much about her as it was about me.
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In places where one major party dominates, it is in the primaries where one can have real contests, as opposed to ones where the victory of one of the participants is almost a certainty.

Then how Shontel Brown was in the local Democratic establishment, and clearly an establishment pick.
RG: And so you knew the big money was coming.

NT: I did, Ryan. I knew they were coming. I guess I did not realize how deep and how hard they would go.

RG: Nina Turner is not a real Democrat. You can’t trust her. When she had the chance to endorse Hillary Clinton, and help the Democrats beat Donald Trump, she was flirting with Jill Stein. You can’t trust her.

NT: And I should have because I was side by side with Senator Bernie Sanders. And as I recall, even the hint that he may run in 2020, there were all kinds of articles and big, major national newspapers making it clear that there was gonna be an “Anybody but Bernie” campaign launched as well. And that impacted me. And I did have some people tell me because I supported Senator Sanders, they were coming for me, too.
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NT raised over $6 million, and SB only $2.7 million. But some big PAC's came in can campaigned heavily for SB.
RG: So while the stats will, on paper, say she raised almost $3 million, and then something like $2.6-$2.7 million was spent on the outside to benefit her, actually, a lot of the money that she raised came from the super PACs. But you know, there’s a way you can use Facebook and text messaging and email to kind of drive money —

NT: That’s right.

RG: — so it appears like she has more, and also then she can control how she spends that money, rather than having to signal through the red box. And let’s talk about that red box.
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Shontel Brown’s Campaign Website Is Low-Key Pleading for Super PAC Support - "Turner’s opponent in the Ohio House primary appears to be messaging straight to pro-Israel super PACs."

From that article,
Brown’s campaign has listed on its website a set of negative talking points about her opponent Nina Turner, all enclosed in a bright red box. Directly under the red box is a quote from Democratic consultant Mark Mellman, the leader of a major pro-Israel super PAC that has consistently spent large sums of money against Sen. Bernie Sanders and his congressional allies. (“Red box” is a campaign industry term, referring to the spot on the website that candidates use to communicate with outside groups like super PACs.).
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lpetrich said:
Nina Turner: OH-11 Race Came Down To ‘Anyone But Nina’, Files Campaign Papers For Possible 2022 Run - YouTube - Shontel Brown was the one that the Democratic establishment chose to support.

She has not declared herself to be in the race, but she has made it so that she can easily do so.

Nina Turner says pro-Israel businessman called on her to ‘disavow the Squad’ — leading to Ohio loss – Mondoweiss
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Deconstructed: Nina Turner on Her Loss and Future

In places where one major party dominates, it is in the primaries where one can have real contests, as opposed to ones where the victory of one of the participants is almost a certainty.

Then how Shontel Brown was in the local Democratic establishment, and clearly an establishment pick.

NT raised over $6 million, and SB only $2.7 million. But some big PAC's came in can campaigned heavily for SB.
RG: So while the stats will, on paper, say she raised almost $3 million, and then something like $2.6-$2.7 million was spent on the outside to benefit her, actually, a lot of the money that she raised came from the super PACs. But you know, there’s a way you can use Facebook and text messaging and email to kind of drive money —

NT: That’s right.

RG: — so it appears like she has more, and also then she can control how she spends that money, rather than having to signal through the red box. And let’s talk about that red box.
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Shontel Brown’s Campaign Website Is Low-Key Pleading for Super PAC Support - "Turner’s opponent in the Ohio House primary appears to be messaging straight to pro-Israel super PACs."

From that article,
Brown’s campaign has listed on its website a set of negative talking points about her opponent Nina Turner, all enclosed in a bright red box. Directly under the red box is a quote from Democratic consultant Mark Mellman, the leader of a major pro-Israel super PAC that has consistently spent large sums of money against Sen. Bernie Sanders and his congressional allies. (“Red box” is a campaign industry term, referring to the spot on the website that candidates use to communicate with outside groups like super PACs.).
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Those pro-Israeli business meanies are the worst!
 
Back to the recent interview. NT explained what a red box is.
... I even have emails right now, to this day of local, primarily business leaders in the Jewish community where they were encouraging Republicans to vote in this primary, and were saying things like: We must support Shontel Brown, in no way can we let Nina Turner win this race.

Some of the Squad members are my friends, and many of them I knew before they became congresspeople, so I have a relationship with them. And I was told by a prominent Jewish businessman that: We’re coming at you with everything you got, you need to disavow the Squad. And people are hearing this first with you and me talking, Ryan, because I have not told this level of truth.

And I was told that I needed to disavow the Squad; if I didn’t do it, they were coming for me; and that also Palestinian community didn’t have rights that were more important than the State of Israel.

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RG: And I think when DMFI saw it happening, they pumped neighborhoods full of mailers —

NT: And they also sent emails out to the Jewish community nationally, painting me as an anti-Semite, which nothing can be further from the truth.
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Seems like anyone who does not support Israel beating up Arabs is automatically an anti-Semite.

DMFI is the Democratic Majority for Israel PAC
NT: And the outer-ring suburban communities that were more fluent, when you compare it to the turnout and portions of Akron that represent the 11th Congressional District, and then Cleveland itself outnumbered because I won those areas. I won the working class, blacks, whites, and Hispanic community both on the east side and also the west side, which was a beautiful thing. They just didn’t turn out at the same level as the more fluent communities and also the — and you ended up losing by roughly 4,000 votes. And, by my calculation, I think in Beachwood, that kind of neighborhood alone, you lost 4,000.

NT: And, let us not forget, Republicans were encouraged to vote in this primary and they did.
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It was an open primary, so this tactic worked. I think that if primaries are to be open, they must be nonpartisan, with the top two or some other small number continuing on to the general election. Alaska now has a top-four system, followed by an IRV general election.
 
NT's opponents also presented her as Not A Real Democrat, not very supportive of fellow Democrats like Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden. Like considering Jill Stein in 2016 and what she compared Joe Biden's plans to.
No, I am a Democrat! But I am a Shirley Chisholm Democrat. Congresswoman Shirley Chisholm — “Unbought and unbossed.” That was her campaign slogan when she ran for president in 1972.

So they got us off our game a little bit, because here we are trying to prove how much of a Democrat I am. Democratic nominee for Secretary of State in 2014; Democratic member of the Ohio Senate; Democrat as a councilwoman; Democrat for President Obama twice to the convention. What more do you want?
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BNC and JD are still well behind their 2020 numbers of candidates, but they are planning to take on several big-name incumbents, like they did in 2018 and 2020.
 
I found a few other gov't-reform proposals.

Democracy Reform Policy Platform — Shervin Aazami
  • Abolishing gerrymandering and the US Senate's filibuster
  • Use systems of voting like Ranked-Choice Voting and STAR Voting
Solutions – Sylvester Ani Jr. for Congress CA-38
Term Limits For Congress -- Establish 12-year term limits for Congress to eliminate career politicians who are more invested in enriching themselves as opposed to serving the people and then ushering in the next generation to take the reins.

Government Reform | Congressman Ro Khanna - he wants term limits, but he does not address the question of how many terms.

STAR is Score then Automatic Runoff. The voters rate every candidate from 0 to 5. In the first round of counting, the ratings are added up and the top two candidates advance to the next round. For each ballot, whichever of these two had the higher score is the one voted for.

The automatic-runoff part is presumably to make it worth doing to give different candidates different ratings, instead of only best or worst ratings.
 
Kara Eastman ran twice for NE-02, losing against Don Bacon (R) twice: in 2018, 49.0 - 51.0, and in 2020, 46.2 - 50.8 - (libertarian) 3.0.

She's not running this time, but she's supporting someone else's run for that seat.
Kara Eastman on Twitter: "Nebraska friends. I have an announcement to make. Today I'm endorsing @AlishaKShelton for Congress!

Alisha is a kind, caring person who truly respects others. She'll listen to ALL parts of the district & would be exponentially better than Don Bacon on literally every issue.🙏 (pic link)" / Twitter
DB's govtrack.us ideology score is 0.77.
 
Jessica Cisneros on Twitter: "8 years ago, for the first time, I knocked on doors for a Texas governor candidate named @wendydavis.

Now, I am proud to say I have been endorsed by that same Texas trailblazer.

It’s an honor to have you on our team, Wendy!💪🏾 (pic link)" / Twitter
Who is Wendy Davis?
 Wendy Davis (politician)
Wendy Russell Davis[1] (born Wendy Jean Russell;[2] May 16, 1963) is an American lawyer and Democratic Party politician from Fort Worth, Texas. Davis represented the 10th district in the Texas Senate from 2009 to 2015. She was previously on the Fort Worth City Council. She is a public speaker and political commentator, as well as the founder of Deeds Not Words, a non-profit for engaging young women in politics.

On June 25, 2013, Davis held a thirteen-hour-long filibuster to block Senate Bill 5, a measure which included more restrictive abortion regulations for Texas.[3] The filibuster played a major role in Senate Democrats' success in delaying passage of the bill beyond the midnight deadline for the end of the legislative session, though it ultimately passed in a second session. The filibuster brought Davis national attention, leading to speculation about a run for governor of Texas.[4] She subsequently ran for governor of Texas in 2014, but was defeated by Republican Party nominee Greg Abbott by 59% to 38%.[5]

On July 22, 2019, Davis announced she would run for Texas's 21st congressional district in 2020, which she subsequently lost by approximately seven percent to Chip Roy.[6]
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Also,
With Texas at Center of Abortion Fight, NARAL Backs Cisneros Over Cuellar for 2022 - "Jessica Cisneros will take bold action to fight back against unyielding attacks from anti-choice politicians in Texas and across the country."
then
Common Dreams on Twitter: ""We are proud to endorse @JCisnerosTX at this critical moment in the fight for reproductive freedom, and our members in Texas are excited to roll up their sleeves and help send her to Congress," says @NARAL's @cwlobue. (link)" / Twitter

It's clear what side she is on about abortion.

No new endorsements from either BNC or JD, however.
 
'We have a lot at stake': Progressive state Rep. Summer Lee kicks off U.S. House campaign | Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
At a news conference Tuesday morning, Ms. Lee said she would support the Green New Deal, Medicare for All and labor unions if voters send her to Washington.

“We have a lot at stake here,” she said to a crowd of supporters at Braddock Civic Plaza. “I’m running because I understand that we cannot afford to wait another election. We can’t afford to wait another moment. We can’t afford to hesitate. We have an urgency right now in the issues that we’re facing in communities just like this.”
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Summer Lee on Twitter: "My hometown was supposed to be the American dream.
Our labor made the steel that built America but when the mills left, we paid the price.
Now I’m bringing the fight I’ve been in my whole life to Washington - to win a Green New Deal, Medicare For All, and racial justice. #PA18 (link)" / Twitter

Progressive champion Summer Lee enters Pennsylvania primary to replace retiring Rep. Mike Doyle - CNNPolitics
The race is on to replace retiring Democratic Rep. Mike Doyle of Pennsylvania.

Pennsylvania state Rep. Summer Lee, a leading progressive organizer and democratic socialist, formally entered the primary in the state's 18th Congressional District on Tuesday with the support of Justice Democrats, the group that launched New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's first run and has helped send a new generation of young leftist lawmakers to Capitol Hill.

...
But the precise challenge ahead for Lee is unclear, as redistricting is expected to re-write the borders of a district that currently encompasses Pittsburgh and some of its suburbs and as additional candidates consider entering the contest, which already includes law professor Jerry Dickinson.
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Summer Lee on Twitter: "I'm proud to have the support of @JusticeDems on Day One of this amazing grassroots campaign.
I'm running for Congress so I can fight like hell in Washington for investments in housing, child care, education, and health care for our communities. (link)" / Twitter
 
 
Brand New Congress now has a new candidate: Jerry Dickinson, running for PA-18, near Pittsburgh. "Jerry is a civil rights lawyer fighting for #HousingJustice, #GND & #MedicareForAll. He’s running a bold progressive campaign to fight for the working families of Pittsburgh."

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I found this thread about whether BNC / JD / "The Squad" properly represents Black and Hispanic communities.

Matthew Yglesias
@mattyglesias
I keep reading these "David Shor wants Democrats to abandon Black people" takes, but I'm pretty sure what he really wants them to abandon are immigration and climate activists.

Will Stancil on Twitter: "The trick here ..." / Twitter
The trick here is that Matt also argues that the "African-American base" doesn't ACTUALLY want any of the civil rights agenda items that are front and center for almost literally every black-led political organization, but basically the same things as the white working class

Why listen to black-led organizations, elected officials from predominantly black districts, or your own black peers, when you can invent a fuzzy group called "working-class people of color" and then just assign it the exact views that are most convenient for your theory?

David Shor doesn't want Democrats to abandon black voters!

He just want Democrats to stop talking about *checks notes* civil rights, discrimination, racial inequality, police reform, reparations, school integration

Anyway it's darkly funny how the popularists can't get any substantial number of their own nonwhite coworkers and peers to agree with them, so they've come up with elaborate side theory to try and argue they're more attuned with REAL people of color than those peers

Look, David Shor and Matt Yglesias are totally free to argue that they understand black voters' interests better than, say, the NAACP. But if that's their position, they should say so out loud so people can evaluate it.

“We should listen less to black people in our own political circles because we have a poll showing that a black silent majority doesn’t care about all that stuff” is, I dunno, pretty gross?

Like ultimately what these guys appear to be saying is that Democrats can and should ignore politically active people of color and don’t even have to feel bad about it, because those people educated themselves out of an authentic connection with their communities. It’s messed up!

“On one hand, actual black leaders and writers are constantly telling us that racial inequality and discrimination are massive political issues. On the other, black voters strongly preferred Biden, which probably means they are signaling for us to ignore the first group.”

David Shor has so completely broken some dudes’ brains that they have literally forgotten “The History of America, 1776-Present”
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Or even before, to 1619, the first delivery of enslaved Africans to the Anglo colonies.
 
Ross Barkan on Twitter: "Black voters might be the most moderate members of the Democratic coalition. ..." / Twitter
Black voters might be the most moderate members of the Democratic coalition. They're not nearly as culturally leftist as you want them to be. Shor, truthfully, is proposing you listen to them a lot more.

"Black-led" organizations invoked in the media tend to be NGO's that employ people from elite schools not really representative of the general population. That's Shor's whole point. The Working Families Party isn't speaking for Black people in Atlanta or Southeast Queens.

I agree with @ddayen that, in the end, the Democrats must deliver tangible stuff to people or they won't win. If it's a culture war, they're going to lose in a lot of places.

People are smoking mad about the WFP tweet from above but they endorsed Warren in 2020 and the number of working-class Black people who voted for Warren is some number approaching zero.
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William Earl Burns on Twitter: "@RossBarkan The weird thing is that everybody knows this when talking about Presidential primaries, then forgets it for four years." / Twitter
then
Ross Barkan on Twitter: "@williameburns13 yeah my politics could probably be described as socialist but it's the moderate candidates in presidential primaries who win the Black vote (minus Obama). Leftists/socialists/left-liberals should really think about how to change that, not pretend it's fake news." / Twitter
 
Then Imani Oakley, a BNC candidate:
Imani Oakley for Congress on Twitter: "I’m gonna try not to thread y’all to death today ..." / Twitter
I’m gonna try not to thread y’all to death today but we need a “stop misunderstanding the Black vote challenge” ASAP (1/)

1. I’ve been Black 31 years and I don’t even know what “culturally leftist” means?

Black people share resources for survival—a leftist concept—Black matriarchs (women) are central to our communities—a more left concept—Black people reuse materials (plastic bags jars) (2/)

Idk what “culturally leftist” means but I can tell you the ideals of the left have more in common with how the Black community runs itself in PRACTICE than the way white communities typically do for a bunch of reasons too much for this thread (3/)

2. The younger Black voters are the more likely they are to have more leftist politics JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER RACIAL GROUP.

I’m not explaining this more because it’s not difficult. It’s a trend among every group. (4/)

3. Now this is the most important one: Black people are voters for SURVIVAL and in a two party political situation survival looks like voting Democrat for Black folks. (5/)

Now often the establishment (moderate dems) put up other moderate Dems as their party pick or otherwise message and signal that a moderate Dem is their party pick. (6/)

If the party instead put up a more leftist candidate and signaled that said leftist candidate was their pick, Black voters would not pack it up and go home or switch and vote Republican, they would vote for that Dem party (the party of survival) candidate. (7/)

Essentially it’s not a matter of leftist or not leftist so much as it is a matter of lack of options presented in a country where oppression makes people vote for survival rather than for their true political feelings (FIN)
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Back in 2020, the Democratic Party establishment promoted Joe Biden as much more "electable" than Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren. Also, Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar dropped out just before Super Tuesday, presumably to avoid splitting the "moderate" vote.
 
lpetrich said:
Then Imani Oakley, a BNC candidate:
Imani Oakley for Congress on Twitter: "I’m gonna try not to thread y’all to death today ..." / Twitter
I’m gonna try not to thread y’all to death today but we need a “stop misunderstanding the Black vote challenge” ASAP (1/)

1. I’ve been Black 31 years and I don’t even know what “culturally leftist” means?

Black people share resources for survival—a leftist concept—Black matriarchs (women) are central to our communities—a more left concept—Black people reuse materials (plastic bags jars) (2/)

Idk what “culturally leftist” means but I can tell you the ideals of the left have more in common with how the Black community runs itself in PRACTICE than the way white communities typically do for a bunch of reasons too much for this thread (3/)

2. The younger Black voters are the more likely they are to have more leftist politics JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER RACIAL GROUP.

I’m not explaining this more because it’s not difficult. It’s a trend among every group. (4/)

3. Now this is the most important one: Black people are voters for SURVIVAL and in a two party political situation survival looks like voting Democrat for Black folks. (5/)

Now often the establishment (moderate dems) put up other moderate Dems as their party pick or otherwise message and signal that a moderate Dem is their party pick. (6/)

If the party instead put up a more leftist candidate and signaled that said leftist candidate was their pick, Black voters would not pack it up and go home or switch and vote Republican, they would vote for that Dem party (the party of survival) candidate. (7/)

Essentially it’s not a matter of leftist or not leftist so much as it is a matter of lack of options presented in a country where oppression makes people vote for survival rather than for their true political feelings (FIN)
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Back in 2020, the Democratic Party establishment promoted Joe Biden as much more "electable" than Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren. Also, Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar dropped out just before Super Tuesday, presumably to avoid splitting the "moderate" vote.
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I've always wondered, what is wrong with voting for the person who is more electable? Maybe I'd vote my conscience if the guy on the other side was a moderate or something. However, I think that it's no exaggeration to say that Trump was the worst president in our history. Why shouldn't I vote for "most electable" in the primary?
 
lpetrich said:
I found this thread about whether BNC / JD / "The Squad" properly represents Black and Hispanic communities.

Matthew Yglesias
@mattyglesias
I keep reading these "David Shor wants Democrats to abandon Black people" takes, but I'm pretty sure what he really wants them to abandon are immigration and climate activists.
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I think he has a point. After all, black people are statistically most likely to be harmed by crime, especially violent crime. And yet the lefty activists see the criminals as their base with the "defund police", "abolish police" and "abolish prisons" rhetoric. Who do they think will be mostly harmed by that? Note also that it was blacks who generally supported the 1990s crime bill for this very reason.
 
lpetrich said:
Back in 2020, the Democratic Party establishment promoted Joe Biden as much more "electable" than Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren. Also, Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar dropped out just before Super Tuesday, presumably to avoid splitting the "moderate" vote.
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Yes, Biden was sold to us as a "moderate". But as soon as he took office, he proved to be a Trojan Horse for the Bernie/Warren/Squad wing of the Democratic Party. Unfortunately.
 
Derec said:
Yes, Biden was sold to us as a "moderate". But as soon as he took office, he proved to be a Trojan Horse for the Bernie/Warren/Squad wing of the Democratic Party. Unfortunately.
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I see Biden as doing what he needs to do and appealing to whom he needs to appeal to to get legislation passed. If he has to split the baby between Sanders and Manchin then so be it.
 
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