fromderinside
Mazzie Daius
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You could try to use your brain.With what can a person conclude there is no mind?
If you're sure you have one and if you actually know how to use it maybe it's one way to do it. Me I actually don't know I have a brain but apparently I don't need to. All I need is know my own mind. And I just happen to do. Something like Descartes I guess. I'm also sceptical about brains proving minds, even collectively organised brains, like, say, CERN or whatever. There seems to be some sort of catch. Fascinating.
EB
Wow. Apparently a lesson is in order. Rocks arise from environmental stress. They continue to change over time. Finally they become something else, say, magma as the earth, also under environmental stress (a different set of stressors to be sure), evolves. Do we not call the effects of the different classes environmental stressors rock and magma based on what class of stressors act as genators?
Yet for humans we call how the human brain acts mind even when its products are generated by different classes of stressors. On the other hand when we classify the nature of how the brain works in response to various classes of stressors. We call one class of brain behaviour thought, another instinct, and yet another as reflex. We now know there are others science moves on.
Your example, that by Descartes, didn't work this way. He noticed human brains were rotated ninety degrees from dogs and concluded humans had soul, mind, instinct, and reflex. He attributed to dogs only instinct and reflex. I guess he thought a rotated brain was the result of another class of stressors.
I wonder what would be the result if what you attributed to your awarenesses wasn't so self centered. Certainly what you aggregate differently can be analyzed differently, perhaps even more more universally, say according to drivers to what you aggregate.