Do you think it is possible that there could one day be a VR video game where the graphics look almost photorealistic and you can use your voice to talk to the characters and they reply realistically? And the AI would be handled by a computer rather than real people controlling the talking of the NPCs.Right, but the argument on offer here is that everyone except excreationist is a p zombie, which is an entity that has no qualia, no internal life at all — except for his truly, excreationist.
Yeah as an atheist I thought there was nothing special about me. It seemed my life wasn't worth living. There are main characters in some video games and movies that seem very ordinary, at least at first. If I could relive a life I would relive my own - partly because in school a lot of girls liked me but I didn't know what to do. Then I came across large amounts of PUA stuff, etc. But I only put it into action at the age of 29 (after I was getting over "toxic shame" which developed as an atheist). I would have done a lot better if I had even asked a single person for girl advice when I was in high school.
Well you don't believe in fully immersive simulations but there would be a more limited simulation that you think is possible. So do you have a problem with there being a VR video game with fairly photorealistic graphics (like GTA 6) and characters you could talk to that do real-time text to speech, etc?What has this to do with the issue at hand? That you believe there is a 50 percent probability that we all live in a simulation but the blessed YOU are the only one conscious within it? Do you have any evidence for this claim?Do you think it is possible that there could one day be a VR video game where the graphics look almost photorealistic and you can use your voice to talk to the characters and they reply realistically? And the AI would be handled by a computer rather than real people controlling the talking of the NPCs.Right, but the argument on offer here is that everyone except excreationist is a p zombie, which is an entity that has no qualia, no internal life at all — except for his truly, excreationist.
The 50/50 probability is roughly based on my feelings. I guess your reasoning is that simulations are definitely not possible therefore the probability is 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000%. That leaves out room for any ignorance or misunderstanding you might have of the issues.
Boltzmann brain hypothesis -- which certainly seems far more absurd than the simulation hypothesis -- was also proposed (though sarcastically) with a similar likelihood argument.
Is someone claiming that a Boltzmann brain is more likely than an intelligence evolving naturalistically? The thing about simulations is that when one is possible then after a little while billions would be possible, assuming it can be replicated cheaply (and today there are billions of video games with the demand coming from billions of players).IOW, given a plausible starting assumption, Simulation is just more likely.
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Is someone claiming that a Boltzmann brain is more likely than an intelligence evolving naturalistically?IOW, given a plausible starting assumption, Simulation is just more likely.
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15.8P Zombie is a new one for me, I had to look it up. From the wiki pane my guess it is an arftiofact of the psjhedelics of the day.
Right, but the argument on offer here is that everyone except excreationist is a p zombie, which is an entity that has no qualia, no internal life at all — except for his truly, excreationist.
Yeah as an atheist I thought there was nothing special about me. It seemed my life wasn't worth living. There are main characters in some video games and movies that seem very ordinary, at least at first. If I could relive a life I would relive my own - partly because in school a lot of girls liked me but I didn't know what to do. Then I came across large amounts of PUA stuff, etc. But I only put it into action at the age of 29 (after I was getting over "toxic shame" which developed as an atheist). I would have done a lot better if I had even asked a single person for girl advice when I was in high school.
Well you don't believe in fully immersive simulations but there would be a more limited simulation that you think is possible. So do you have a problem with there being a VR video game with fairly photorealistic graphics (like GTA 6) and characters you could talk to that do real-time text to speech, etc?What has this to do with the issue at hand? That you believe there is a 50 percent probability that we all live in a simulation but the blessed YOU are the only one conscious within it? Do you have any evidence for this claim?Do you think it is possible that there could one day be a VR video game where the graphics look almost photorealistic and you can use your voice to talk to the characters and they reply realistically? And the AI would be handled by a computer rather than real people controlling the talking of the NPCs.Right, but the argument on offer here is that everyone except excreationist is a p zombie, which is an entity that has no qualia, no internal life at all — except for his truly, excreationist.
P Zombie is a new one for me, I had to look it up. From the wiki pane my guess it is an arftiofact of the psjhedelics of the day.
Right, but the argument on offer here is that everyone except excreationist is a p zombie, which is an entity that has no qualia, no internal life at all — except for his truly, excreationist.
I didn't suggest that they were always superfluous; Merely that they are in this case, when attempting to stress that the number in question is exactly zero.
Absolutely; Not only are we in agreement, but your example is an extension of my point. 17 means exactly 17, while 17.0 means 17 at three digits of precision - were a fourth digit available, the number might well not be exactly 17 (for example, it could be 16.96, or 17.04). In your example, therefore, the zero after the decimal point is important and should not be omitted.