Drawing Mohammed

[DrZoidberg]

I just realised the idiocy of not being allowed to paint Mohammed. Nobody knows how he looked like. Nobody who draws him will be remotely close to it. All Muslims can relax now

 

[ideologyhunter]

The lack of a model hasn't stopped any votive artist, ever. Have you seen Jesus' high school graduation pic? No one has. So how come we all know that JC looked like Jared Leto?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

They feared an image of him would become an idol and the message lost. Ironically, Instead the rule against images of him has itself become an idol and people have forgotten the message.

 

[steve_bank]

To the biblical Hebrews any physical representation of god was blasphemy and idolatry. A serious crime in the times They distinguished themselves from pagans who worshiped physical images.

The RCC sect is particularly idolatrous. They worship and pray to statues and images. Idolatry.

 

[Politesse]

It's a shibboleth. The point isn't whether the rules makes sense, the point is to show other people that you know and follow the rule.

My primary school history textbook had a Mongolia-era historical image of the Prophet (pbuh) conversing with the angel Gabriel on the second page of its description of the faith as a whole. I didn't realize until many years later how uncommon and potentially offensive such an image was.

 

[Politesse]

To the biblical Hebrews any physical representation of god was blasphemy and idolatry. A serious crime in the times They distinguished themselves from pagans who worshiped physical images.

To some of the Biblical Hebrews. The other Biblical Hebrews were the ones committing all the blasphemies. You get the sense, reading works like the Books of the Kings, that this often constituted a strong populational majority, with only a small conservative priesthood-within-the-priesthood left to disapprove. But the conservatives won out in the end.

 

[skepticalbip]

It's a shibboleth. The point isn't whether the rules makes sense, the point is to show other people that you know and follow the rule.

That is religion for you. It doesn't matter if someone knows that the rules make no sense, even to the point of stupidity, they will continue to obey because they were told to. It does, however, explain how religions can make people commit atrocities they would otherwise condemn.

 

[Politesse]

It's a shibboleth. The point isn't whether the rules makes sense, the point is to show other people that you know and follow the rule.

That is religion for you. It doesn't matter if someone knows that the rules make no sense, even to the point of stupidity, they will continue to obey because they were told to.

Sometimes. It's certainly the logic of authoritarianism. Life as one long test of loyalty.

 

[steve_bank]

The social value of religion is structure and order, a set of rules governing behavior.

The original Romans understood the value of a state religion and rituals.

 

[DrZoidberg]

It's a shibboleth. The point isn't whether the rules makes sense, the point is to show other people that you know and follow the rule.

My primary school history textbook had a Mongolia-era historical image of the Prophet (pbuh) conversing with the angel Gabriel on the second page of its description of the faith as a whole. I didn't realize until many years later how uncommon and potentially offensive such an image was.

It's a school history textbook. They would be unprofessional if they would give a shit about religious sensibilities when describing the religion. It's like leaving out troubling parts of history because it might hurt people's feelings.

This idea that people who don't belong to a religion has to respect it's rituals and customs is mind blowing to me. It's so dumb.

 

[funinspace]

It's a shibboleth. The point isn't whether the rules makes sense, the point is to show other people that you know and follow the rule.

That is religion for you. It doesn't matter if someone knows that the rules make no sense, even to the point of stupidity, they will continue to obey because they were told to. It does, however, explain how religions can make people commit atrocities they would otherwise condemn.

We tend to think of this stuff as silly things of the past, that some cling to. Modern Rabbis continue to manifest this stupidity and obtuse rule making even today. For some Jews, they are told they can't even press an elevator button, but can walk up stairs. WTF, which is more "work"? The modern conservative Rabbis, instead of building a modern sane version of "not working" have made it inane circus of silly rules, almost as if Monty Python took charge of their rule making. Based on so many of their modern rules, these type of Jews shouldn't even get out of bed for the Sabbath, and keep a piss pot beside the bed...

 

[steve_bank]

Go to the NYC conservative Jewish neighborhood and it is more like conservative Islam in Saudi Arabia. Patriarchal, insular, separation of the sexes. Women's dress defined, and spousal abuse.