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Good article at Patheos.

"Fascist leaders like Mussolini, like Trump, understood that their struggle for power could only work through recourse to clearly identified external or internal foes. These foes didn’t have to be real because fascists knew that imagination is more powerful than reality, as anyone knows who has argued with today’s conspiracy theorists, say those who believe that the US government was “behind” 9/11. It isn’t true but it’s a fun and entertaining idea. It is more thrilling than boring mere reality.

The identified enemies of fascism, were the Communists or the red proletariat, that became “the Other” lying outside the totalitarian fascist state. For Trump it’s Mexicans, Obama and Clinton– branded Other, UN-American- a threat. For Trump supporters it is the US Government itself that is the enemy. They want it replaced by a strong man in whom all our hopes and dreams reside. They arm themselves as possible “insurrectionists” to “take back” America from “Them.”"​

{bold added}
That is what is most worrisome; Trump makes no bones about wanting to be that strongman, allowing only a space between the words strong and man - which takes the edge off it for those not inoculated against seeing through the code. He admires Saddam Hussein, Kim Jong Un, and especially Vladimir Putin for their "strength". Let's not look at what makes those "great leaders" strong, though. Murdering and "disappearing" anyone who vocally opposes them, their policies or their actions isn't so bad anyhow. Killing newspeople who might tell stories - no matter how true - about their heinous acts or the devastating effects they have upon the populace at large, is just a necessary evil to remaining strong. Trump cites his buddy Vlad's 83% popularity among the Russian people, and derides Clinton for having a poll-based approval rating of around half that. Never mind that Putin's supposed popularity is the stated product of Putin-controlled media that have been de-privatized and now work exclusively on behalf of their vaunted leader, while those in the media who dissented have been either cowed into silence, murdered or made to disappear.

Yes, those are great leaders by the metric that Trump applies. Clinton and Obama (along with George Washington and Abraham Lincoln) are pathetically weak figures by comparison.

Trump supporters might very well get exactly what they want - the sort of great leadership that has was so successful in making Germany Great Again in 1938. But probably not, because while Trump has the camera charisma and acting experience required, he is dumb as a creosote post without the creosote, and has the attention span of a lit match. More likely, he will simply don the trappings of such autocrats, and run the entire country into the ground with expenditures on wars, walls and the militarization of internal Law Enforcement. And who will get hurt the most and the soonest? Those very non-elites whose suffering he promises to alleviate. But they will probably feel okay about it, as long as Trump assures them that they feel okay about it...
 
Don't forget more tax cuts for the rich.

Those with more than they need will get more.

Which only means those with real needs will get less.
 
Don't forget more tax cuts for the rich.
those with more than they need will get more.
Which only means those with real needs will get less.

Yup. But they will be told how much better off they are, and some will believe it now that it's okay to resume lynching people who don't look like them.
 
I take solace in the fact that he'd be a very incompetent and, hopefully, unsuccessful strongman.
Unlike Hitler or Mussolini, he doesn't strike me as a clever thinker, planner, or even a reader.
 
I take solace in the fact that he'd be a very incompetent and, hopefully, unsuccessful strongman.
Unlike Hitler or Mussolini, he doesn't strike me as a clever thinker, planner, or even a reader.

Maybe the whole thing is another a real estate scam. The Donald and his cronies plan to buy real estate en mass when millions of people leave the country and prices plummet. (Only half tongue in cheek.)
 
Good article at Patheos.

"Fascist leaders like Mussolini, like Trump, understood that their struggle for power could only work through recourse to clearly identified external or internal foes. These foes didn’t have to be real because fascists knew that imagination is more powerful than reality, as anyone knows who has argued with today’s conspiracy theorists, say those who believe that the US government was “behind” 9/11. It isn’t true but it’s a fun and entertaining idea. It is more thrilling than boring mere reality.

The identified enemies of fascism, were the Communists or the red proletariat, that became “the Other” lying outside the totalitarian fascist state. For Trump it’s Mexicans, Obama and Clinton– branded Other, UN-American- a threat. For Trump supporters it is the US Government itself that is the enemy. They want it replaced by a strong man in whom all our hopes and dreams reside. They arm themselves as possible “insurrectionists” to “take back” America from “Them.”"​

{bold added}
That is what is most worrisome; Trump makes no bones about wanting to be that strongman, allowing only a space between the words strong and man - which takes the edge off it for those not inoculated against seeing through the code. He admires Saddam Hussein, Kim Jong Un, and especially Vladimir Putin for their "strength". Let's not look at what makes those "great leaders" strong, though. Murdering and "disappearing" anyone who vocally opposes them, their policies or their actions isn't so bad anyhow. Killing newspeople who might tell stories - no matter how true - about their heinous acts or the devastating effects they have upon the populace at large, is just a necessary evil to remaining strong. Trump cites his buddy Vlad's 83% popularity among the Russian people, and derides Clinton for having a poll-based approval rating of around half that. Never mind that Putin's supposed popularity is the stated product of Putin-controlled media that have been de-privatized and now work exclusively on behalf of their vaunted leader, while those in the media who dissented have been either cowed into silence, murdered or made to disappear.

Yes, those are great leaders by the metric that Trump applies. Clinton and Obama (along with George Washington and Abraham Lincoln) are pathetically weak figures by comparison.

Trump supporters might very well get exactly what they want - the sort of great leadership that has was so successful in making Germany Great Again in 1938. But probably not, because while Trump has the camera charisma and acting experience required, he is dumb as a creosote post without the creosote, and has the attention span of a lit match. More likely, he will simply don the trappings of such autocrats, and run the entire country into the ground with expenditures on wars, walls and the militarization of internal Law Enforcement. And who will get hurt the most and the soonest? Those very non-elites whose suffering he promises to alleviate. But they will probably feel okay about it, as long as Trump assures them that they feel okay about it...

I think if you look at what he said in context, he made the point that Saddam killed off terrorists and emphasised that he was a 'bad guy.' This isn't the same as praising.
someone. As for Putin, it's time the US realised that Russia hasn't been a communist country for several years and both the US and Russia have more important enemies by way of terrorists to combine resources against.
 
I think if you look at what he said in context, he made the point that Saddam killed off terrorists and emphasised that he was a 'bad guy.' This isn't the same as praising.

I think if you look at my post in context and read for comprehension, you will see that I made the point that Rump praises the "strong leadership" qualities of those despots, which are attained and maintained through cruelty, violence and oppression. Rump's personal fondness or lack thereof for those whose "leadership" he praises, has nothing to do with it. He overtly admires those people's ability to kill anyone who does anything they don't like, whether it's terrorism, their editorial opinions or the way they smell.

You can make all the excuses you want for Rump's egotism and megalomania, but it remains plain to see for anyone not blinded in the manner that the linked article - which you did not read - describes.
 
I think if you look at what he said in context, he made the point that Saddam killed off terrorists and emphasised that he was a 'bad guy.' This isn't the same as praising.

I think if you look at my post in context and read for comprehension, you will see that I made the point that Rump praises the "strong leadership" qualities of those despots, which are attained and maintained through cruelty, violence and oppression. Rump's personal fondness or lack thereof for those whose "leadership" he praises, has nothing to do with it. He overtly admires those people's ability to kill anyone who does anything they don't like, whether it's terrorism, their editorial opinions or the way they smell.

You can make all the excuses you want for Rump's egotism and megalomania, but it remains plain to see for anyone not blinded in the manner that the linked article - which you did not read - describes.
This indicates a failure of leadership. What Donald cannot not obtain is the respect leaders obtain so he admires the control.
 
I think if you look at my post in context and read for comprehension, you will see that I made the point that Rump praises the "strong leadership" qualities of those despots, which are attained and maintained through cruelty, violence and oppression. Rump's personal fondness or lack thereof for those whose "leadership" he praises, has nothing to do with it. He overtly admires those people's ability to kill anyone who does anything they don't like, whether it's terrorism, their editorial opinions or the way they smell.

You can make all the excuses you want for Rump's egotism and megalomania, but it remains plain to see for anyone not blinded in the manner that the linked article - which you did not read - describes.
This indicates a failure of leadership. What Donald cannot not obtain is the respect leaders obtain so he admires the control.

Should he be elected, the Donald is in for a big surprise - the US government is not run as is a privately held Corporation. Presidents' control is rather limited.
 
Should he be elected, the Donald is in for a big surprise - the US government is not run as is a privately held Corporation. Presidents' control is rather limited.
But Rumpt is going to change all that. He's going to deport illegals, remove crime in Chicago, reduce our taxes, balance the budget, etc. He's evern going to make Mexico pay for a wall to keep their citizens from crossing the border.

Don't take my word, ask him or his followers.
 
Should he be elected, the Donald is in for a big surprise - the US government is not run as is a privately held Corporation. Presidents' control is rather limited.
But Rumpt is going to change all that. He's going to deport illegals, remove crime in Chicago, reduce our taxes, balance the budget, etc. He's evern going to make Mexico pay for a wall to keep their citizens from crossing the border.

Don't take my word, ask him or his followers.
And like Brexit, the supporters will quickly change their tune about how much of what he said was "symbolic".
 
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