Evidence of Implicit Gender Bias

[Alcoholic Actuary]

So here’s how the argument usually goes. Women, they say, gravitate towards lower-paid industries such as nursing, cleaning, teaching, social work, childcare, customer service or administrative work

I think this is mostly because women are largely raised as children onward to be more "naturally" suited for these kinds of positions.

"Men tend to gravitate toward higher paying positions, like Doctor or Lawyer or Engineer, and women tend to gravitate toward lower paying positions, like Female Doctor, Female Lawyer, or Female Engineer."

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[sharon45]

I think this is mostly because women are largely raised as children onward to be more "naturally" suited for these kinds of positions.

"Men tend to gravitate toward higher paying positions, like Doctor or Lawyer or Engineer, and women tend to gravitate toward lower paying positions, like Female Doctor, Female Lawyer, or Female Engineer."

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Hence why I said "onward," because even as adults, both sexes are being raised and conditioned in numerous ways by society.

 

[fast]

I think this is mostly because women are largely raised as children onward to be more "naturally" suited for these kinds of positions.

"Men tend to gravitate toward higher paying positions, like Doctor or Lawyer or Engineer, and women tend to gravitate toward lower paying positions, like Female Doctor, Female Lawyer, or Female Engineer."

aa

Witty

 

[barbos]

Because Russian health care system is crap.

The American health care system is crap, but most of their doctors are very good.

The American health care system is not crap, it's just scammingly expensive.

 

[LordKiran]

The American health care system is crap, but most of their doctors are very good.

The American health care system is not crap, it's just scammingly expensive.

Lots of hospitals are overcrowded and unable to meet healthcare demand. This is because prior to the ACA the healthcare infrastructure was built to meet the demand of only those who could afford it.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I think this is mostly because women are largely raised as children onward to be more "naturally" suited for these kinds of positions.

"Men tend to gravitate toward higher paying positions, like Doctor or Lawyer or Engineer, and women tend to gravitate toward lower paying positions, like Female Doctor, Female Lawyer, or Female Engineer."

aa

More like surgeon vs pediatrician.

These are all professions where the hours you work can make a big difference--and the men are more likely than the women to work very long days. This is often masked by capping the hours at 40/wk, making it look like discrimination that doesn't actually exist.

Control for three factors and more than 90% of the "discrimination" vanishes:

1) Actual profession. Not merely "doctor".

2) Actual hours worked. No "full time" category.

3) Years of actual experience. Not age or years since graduation. Time out of the labor force for childbearing is not experience.

 

[Alcoholic Actuary]

"Men tend to gravitate toward higher paying positions, like Doctor or Lawyer or Engineer, and women tend to gravitate toward lower paying positions, like Female Doctor, Female Lawyer, or Female Engineer."

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More like surgeon vs pediatrician.

These are all professions where the hours you work can make a big difference--and the men are more likely than the women to work very long days. This is often masked by capping the hours at 40/wk, making it look like discrimination that doesn't actually exist.

completely unsupported.

Control for three factors and more than 90% of the "discrimination" vanishes:

You are talking to an actuary. Is 90% real or a number you are pulling out of your 4th point of contact.

1) Actual profession. Not merely "doctor".

I'm an actual actuary. Women in my profession are paid less than men. I doubt it is significantly different for "doctor" or "Brain Surgeon" or "Pediatrician"

2) Actual hours worked. No "full time" category.

Professionals don't get paid by the hour. The end.

3) Years of actual experience. Not age or years since graduation. Time out of the labor force for childbearing is not experience.

This is where men are discriminated against. Give fathers the same amount of paternity leave that mothers get. Do you imagine salaries would immediately fall in line?

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[bilby]

More like surgeon vs pediatrician.

These are all professions where the hours you work can make a big difference--and the men are more likely than the women to work very long days. This is often masked by capping the hours at 40/wk, making it look like discrimination that doesn't actually exist.

completely unsupported.

Control for three factors and more than 90% of the "discrimination" vanishes:

You are talking to an actuary. Is 90% real or a number you are pulling out of your 4th point of contact.

1) Actual profession. Not merely "doctor".

I'm an actual actuary. Women in my profession are paid less than men. I doubt it is significantly different for "doctor" or "Brain Surgeon" or "Pediatrician"

2) Actual hours worked. No "full time" category.

Professionals don't get paid by the hour. The end.

3) Years of actual experience. Not age or years since graduation. Time out of the labor force for childbearing is not experience.

This is where men are discriminated against. Give fathers the same amount of paternity leave that mothers get. Do you imagine salaries would immediately fall in line?

aa

In some places they do.

They didn't.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

More like surgeon vs pediatrician.

These are all professions where the hours you work can make a big difference--and the men are more likely than the women to work very long days. This is often masked by capping the hours at 40/wk, making it look like discrimination that doesn't actually exist.

completely unsupported.

Control for three factors and more than 90% of the "discrimination" vanishes:

You are talking to an actuary. Is 90% real or a number you are pulling out of your 4th point of contact.

1) Actual profession. Not merely "doctor".

I'm an actual actuary. Women in my profession are paid less than men. I doubt it is significantly different for "doctor" or "Brain Surgeon" or "Pediatrician"

2) Actual hours worked. No "full time" category.

Professionals don't get paid by the hour. The end.

Thereby showing you don't understand.

I do agree they are salaried. However, the guy who normally puts in 60 hr/wk is going to accomplish more and thus be paid more than the woman who puts in 40 hr/wk and then goes home to her kids.

3) Years of actual experience. Not age or years since graduation. Time out of the labor force for childbearing is not experience.

This is where men are discriminated against. Give fathers the same amount of paternity leave that mothers get. Do you imagine salaries would immediately fall in line?

aa

It's not so much a few weeks out to have a kid but that many women spend a considerable chunk of time out with their young kids.