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Anyone who believed in the Q-Anon theories and has since recovered, what was it that made you change your mind?

One thing I can tell you: the groups that go deep into these rabbit-holes are full of people who’ve lost control of their lives, or are running away from them. The ringleaders basically monetize their followers’ hopelessness. It is a powerfully predatory and deadbeat scene, fed on hopelessness channeled into hate. A lot goes down the drain when you spend your time shadow-boxing the unreal.

To our resident QAnons here on TFT, what is your response this article?

Do you think the following is an accurate representation of your movement's beliefs?

Q-Anon has its lineage, in story or method of execution, in previous conspiracism:
  • The pogrom-inciting blood libel myth,
  • Alex Jones’ decades of toxic screeds, including how he falsely pretended Sandy Hook was faked until he blamed his "psychosis" for years of giving bereaved parents hell,
  • The New World Order scare, regardless of whatever is wrong in international politics, is a fear-mongering overreach, i.e. the “black helicopters” scare.
  • The Y2K scare - or at least the idea that bunkers full of beans and guns was the appropriate response as opposed to a lot of meticulous coding,
  • The Masonic/Illuminati sensationalism,
  • The Protocols of the Elders of Zion which proved to be a satirical plagiarism of a French play.

These theories have been debunked many times over, but they keep coming back with primed audiences and as cited material, however flawed. They have Bond-villain explanations for the world’s problems that simply fall apart, and misdirect people even when there’s a fraction of truth in their core thesis. They’re full of non-sequitur leaps and syllogistic fallacies.

There’s the long trail of completely bogus predictions, reminiscent of the endless Rapture fads that left people sitting on hilltops the next morning, completely unready for another day on Earth. Time after time, Q announces imminent arrests of public figures, such as Hillary Clinton, and others pile on with bloodthirsty execution fantasies. These don’t come true, and people retcon this by saying that the arrest happened and there’s a double or clone or hologram appearing in public - granting these con artists a free pass to make yet more predictions, unaccountable for how many times they’ve been wrong.
 
To our resident QAnons here on TFT, what is your response this article?

Does this forum even have any?

I'm pretty certain there are at least a few, yes. On a board like this, they will not admit to it, just as the neo Nazis among us keep their white supremacy veiled, and those overlap heavily, so they're probably all the same people.
 
To our resident QAnons here on TFT, what is your response this article?

Does this forum even have any?

I'm pretty certain there are at least a few, yes. On a board like this, they will not admit to it, just as the neo Nazis among us keep their white supremacy veiled, and those overlap heavily, so they're probably all the same people.

I don't like your chances of a reply, or at the very least one done in good faith.
 
I'm pretty certain there are at least a few, yes. On a board like this, they will not admit to it, just as the neo Nazis among us keep their white supremacy veiled, and those overlap heavily, so they're probably all the same people.

I don't like your chances of a reply, or at the very least one done in good faith.

I'm sure you're right.
 
There are people who believe in all sorts of weird conspiracies. There is the Q-anon advocates, 9-11 truthers, and several on this forum who 'knew' that Trump and Putin colluded together in the 2016 election.

So basically what you're saying is that Bob Mueller was a Democrat conspiracy.
 
There are people who believe in all sorts of weird conspiracies. There is the Q-anon advocates, 9-11 truthers, and several on this forum who 'knew' that Trump and Putin colluded together in the 2016 election.

So basically what you're saying is that Bob Mueller was a Democrat conspiracy.

No. The appointment of Bob Mueller was an example power politics. People don't have to actually believe something to use it against their opponents.
 
There are people who believe in all sorts of weird conspiracies. There is the Q-anon advocates, 9-11 truthers, and several on this forum who 'knew' that Trump and Putin colluded together in the 2016 election.

So basically what you're saying is that Bob Mueller was a Democrat conspiracy.

No. The appointment of Bob Mueller was an example power politics. People don't have to actually believe something to use it against their opponents.

So the Democrats didn't believe in what they were doing but they all were in favor of getting Mueller anyway. They colluded because of "power politics." Sounds like a conspiracy theory to me by definition. Classic dictionary definition of conspiracy theory.

So do you also think that Trump tricked the Democrats into conspiring against him so he could out Russian agents or do you stop before taking it that far?
 
No. The appointment of Bob Mueller was an example power politics. People don't have to actually believe something to use it against their opponents.

So the Democrats didn't believe in what they were doing but they all were in favor of getting Mueller anyway. They colluded because of "power politics." Sounds like a conspiracy theory to me by definition. Classic dictionary definition of conspiracy theory.

So do you also think that Trump tricked the Democrats into conspiring against him so he could out Russian agents or do you stop before taking it that far?

Ah, so you are one of those who believed that Trump and Putin were in cahoots, working together to steal the election... or is it that you still do?
 
No. The appointment of Bob Mueller was an example power politics. People don't have to actually believe something to use it against their opponents.

So the Democrats didn't believe in what they were doing but they all were in favor of getting Mueller anyway. They colluded because of "power politics." Sounds like a conspiracy theory to me by definition. Classic dictionary definition of conspiracy theory.

So do you also think that Trump tricked the Democrats into conspiring against him so he could out Russian agents or do you stop before taking it that far?

Ah, so you are one of those who believed that Trump and Putin were in cahoots, working together to steal the election... or is it that you still do?

Nope, I am agnostic on Trump directly working with Putin and Putin working directly with Trump, though Donnie Jr was willing to work with some of the Russians as evidence of his trying to work with the Russians and having a meeting with them to get dirt on Hillary Clinton. Those are called facts.

Now as to your beliefs that Democrats colluded to get Trump....perhaps you could answer the question:
So do you also think that Trump tricked the Democrats into conspiring against him so he could out Russian agents or do you stop before taking it that far?

This is my second time asking.
 
Ah, so you are one of those who believed that Trump and Putin were in cahoots, working together to steal the election... or is it that you still do?

Nope, I am agnostic on Trump directly working with Putin and Putin working directly with Trump, though Donnie Jr was willing to work with some of the Russians as evidence of his trying to work with the Russians and having a meeting with them to get dirt on Hillary Clinton. Those are called facts.

Now as to your beliefs that Democrats colluded to get Trump....perhaps you could answer the question:
So do you also think that Trump tricked the Democrats into conspiring against him so he could out Russian agents or do you stop before taking it that far?

This is my second time asking.

I didn't answer the question because it is such an asininely stupid question. It is based on an idiotic assumption.
 
It is based on an idiotic assumption.

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders: never expect a straight answer out of a right-winger

Don 2 is a right winger??

No, he meant skepticalbip. sb can't give a straight answer.

He came into the thread to do a classic whataboutism derail but then left himself open to being a conspiracy theorist because he claims the Democrats conspired to get Trump. He will never admit he thinks they conspired even though by definition of what a conspiracy is, he does.

I think he falls short of a Qanon conspiracy theorist and is just a traditional conservative. But he won't answer...so who knows.

I don't think he'll answer the op question.
 
Don 2 is a right winger??

No, he meant skepticalbip. sb can't give a straight answer.
Ah, gotcha.

He came into the thread to do a classic whataboutism derail but then left himself open to being a conspiracy theorist because he claims the Democrats conspired to get Trump. He will never admit he thinks they conspired even though by definition of what a conspiracy is, he does.

I think he falls short of a Qanon conspiracy theorist and is just a traditional conservative. But he won't answer...so who knows.

I don't think he'll answer the op question.
 
Man right-wingers are adorable.

Right-wingers: Just because a Republican run senate voted unanimously in 2016 to investigate whether Russia tried to meddle in the election, and then decided that they did, just because Trump's National Security Advisor was jailed for his correspondence with Russian officials during to 2016 campaign, Just because Trump's first Attorney General had to recuse himself because of his affiliation with the Russian ambassador, just because at least 3 people off the top of my head who had key leadership roles in Trump's election campaign all plead guilty, just because the investigation was so successful it seized enough assets in civil forfeiture to pay for itself and just because Trump's second Attorney General tried to release a summary that deliberately omitted all the things the Trump campaign were complicit in, it was all just a witch hunt/democratic hoax.

Also right-wingers: BENGHAZI!!!!!ONEONEONE
 
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