Bomb#20
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Facebook is banning White Separatism and White Nationalism
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Why would you presume a white nationalist as being rational? Could it not simply be that they want to "preserve the white race" as they say or that they don't find different races compatible? You are going to have a hard time immigrating to Japan if you are not Japanese. Does that necessarily make them Supremacists? You get an easier time immigrating to Israel if you are a Jew. Does that make them Supremacist? Does it make either dangerous and banworthy? Or is something more required. Something like hating the other, marching with tiki torches, etc?
Islamist doesn't mean Muslim. It means one who pushes for Muslim domination or Muslim only society.
Muslim; white person. Islamist; white nationalist/separatist. Islamic Terrorist; violent White Supremacist.
So why does the candidate who spends more usually win?
ronburgundy
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I'm not assuming they are rational, I am assuming (based on all relevant science) that humans do not adopt viewpoints at complete random and that they have motives for doing so.
Preserve it from what? That very idea presumes that other races are inherently dangerous and a threat to one's own, aka racial supremacy.
You are just chock full of absurdly false analogies today. A white person born in Japan would not have a hard time, because the differences are cultural, not racial. Only a racist would think that immigrating to a new country is analogous to two people of different races who were born in the same country.
All false analogies. Muslim is not a member of a particular race but someone who accept a set of ideas. Islamist is not trying to preserve a race from some believed inherently dangerous other race, but rather trying to have their society governed by a set of ideas. And Islamic terrorists and violent white supremacists are similar in their use of violence but one does so to advance a set of ideas while the other to extinguish other races.
At the heart of these differences is ideas vs. an innate trait of race. Ideas are temporary and changeable within each person via non-violence. One not need get rid of people to get rid of an idea. In contrast, race is permanent within each individual and cannot be gotten rid of without violent elimination of people. That is why all white supremacy is inherently violent and advocates violence, and the same goes for nationalism and separatism which cannot be achieved without violence.
It is curious why you are going to such intellectually dishonest lengths to defend white nationalists.
No, it need not presume that.
A white person born in Japan can have quite a hard time.
Not the point of the analogy. The analogy is to another group who want to separate (separatists) or feel superior (supremacists) to another group.
This is false. People can self segregate. They can also selectively breed. Note that I am not advocating either, and merely noting that the above quote is incorrect.
Again, wrong. People can want to segregate and be only with their own race without wanting violence done to the other. It means they are racist. It doesn't necessarily mean they are violent, nor are they necessarily supremacist.
Your accusation is unfounded. And I am not a fan or supporter of white nationalists, separatists or supremacists. I am not white myself and I prefer inter racial coupling. I find it a great way to break down racism in society.
Don2 (Don1 Revised)
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Are you saying you have a preference for white men?
hurtinbuckaroo
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Congratulations. I don't use Facebook. I also don't search Facebook.
Personally? No. Pasty white men are not my thing. Sorry.
Don2 (Don1 Revised)
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Can you clarify your comment? It is a weird thing to write. Personally, I think it's great if inter racial coupling happens and great if it doesn't happen. The basis for either ought not be some weird political belief but just who people like.
I mean, I don't attend a wedding celebration and think "too bad that white woman didn't marry a black man instead," or vice versa. Instead, I am thinking "it's great that these two people found each other" whatever their race. And also, "they have no idea what they're in for."
One solution to racism is a series of interracial orgies until we have interbred to the point that everyone is a shade of brown and race is no longer a thing.
I dont advocate forcing it on anyone. I do smile when I see it.
Jason Harvestdancer
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Your lack of use of Facebook doesn't impact whether or not Black Hitler is on a site that announced it is banning certain racists, which brings us back to my original comment on inconsistency.
repoman
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This will go into effect next week at any rate. Too soon to tell. My guess is that Stefan Molyneux will be among the very first purged.