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It's Official: Women Leaders Dealt With Covid Better - "A study has suggested that women leaders' more empathetic communication style contributed to fewer coronavirus deaths."
New Zealand’s Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and German Chancellor Angela Merkel have received praise for their countries’ response to coronavirus, while US President Donald Trump has been criticised. But even with the best and worst outliers removed, statistical analysis of 194 countries by the University of Liverpool still showed that women leaders performed better.

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With only 19 countries out of 194 led by women, researchers created “nearest neighbour” countries based on a number of factors, such as GDP, population, population age, health expenditure, equality and openness to travel. So Leo Varadkar’s Ireland was compared to Jacinda Ardern’s New Zealand; Sheikh Hasina’s Bangladesh was compared to Pakistan, led by Arif Alvi; and Ana Brnabić’s Serbia was compared to Israel, led by Benjamin Netanyahu.

Professor Garikipati said: “Nearest neighbour analysis clearly confirms that when women-led countries are compared to countries similar to them along a range of characteristics, they have performed better, experiencing fewer cases as well as fewer deaths.”

Researchers found that women leaders tended to lock their countries down earlier. Rather than an example of gender stereotypes around risk aversion, the researchers argue that women leaders were willing to risk their economies to preserve human life.

The researchers argue that “having a clear, empathetic and decisive communication style made a significant difference to immediate outcomes of the COVID pandemic in women-led countries”.
The paper: Leading the Fight Against the Pandemic: Does Gender ‘Really’ Matter? by Supriya Garikipati, Uma Kambhampati :: SSRN

Countries with female leaders suffer six times fewer COVID-19 deaths
The COVID-19 crisis points to female leadership as a marker for healthier and more equal societies that are more receptive to political agendas placing social and environmental wellbeing at the core of national policymaking, according to a new analysis involving Lorenzo Fioramonti from the University of Pretoria and Luca Coscieme from Trinity.

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  • Countries with women in position of leadership suffered six times fewer confirmed deaths from COVID-19 than countries with governments led by men
  • Female-led governments were more effective and rapid at flattening the epidemic's curve, with peaks in daily deaths roughly six times lower than in countries ruled by men
  • The average numer of days with confirmed deaths was 34 in countries ruled by women and 48 in countries ruled by men
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Luca Coscieme, Marie Skodowska-Curie and Irish Research Council CAROLINE Fellow in Trinity College Dublin's School of Natural Sciences, is one of the authors of the study. He said, "Female-led governments shared similar approaches to the crisis, characterized by early consultation with national health experts and advisors, and containment measures were implemented early. On the other hand, most male-led governments downplayed initial warnings and acted with substantial delays to respond to the crisis."

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A similarly positive pattern occurred in Denmark, Norway and Finland, all ruled by women, as opposed to Sweden, ruled by a man, where economic considerations trumped health concerns, and ultimately resulted in the highest death toll per capita in Europe.

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"Over the past few years, most women-led governments have also placed a stronger emphasis on social and environmental wellbeing, investing more in public health and reducing air pollution—which seems to be closely associated with COVID-19 deaths. Our analysis shows that countries with women-led governments better deliver on Basic Human Needs, one component of the Social Progress Index, which considers aspects of basic medical care, sanitation, shelter and personal safety."

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Other key results from the analysis include the finding that countries with women leaders tend to be more equal, with, on average, a 5-point lower Gini Index of income distribution than countries with male leaders.

With regards to resilience and recovery after the crisis, the results show that women-led countries are likely to suffer the least from the ensuing economic recession: GDP growth forecasts for 2020 indicate that they will experience a decline less than 5.5%, while countries with male leaders will shrink by over 7%.
About the more general conditions, how much of this female leadership may be an effect rather than a cause? Like voters wanting less stereotypically virile politicians in office.
 
I'd say it's a chicken/egg thing, some of column A, some of column B. Maybe add a second dimension to the data creating quadrants, comparing countries with a "strong" history of female representation against those with a "weak" history, granted there may not be enough weight in a few of the groups at that point to make the comparisons
 
Another factor may be women having to be very good in order to get top spots - that's what would be necessary to overcome sexism.

But as women become more common in public office, incompetent women may end up becoming more common. Sarah Palin, for instance.

Or Annabel Palma, the New York City Council member that Joe Crowley sent to debate then primary challenger Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. AOC commented afterward that AP was "a woman with slight resemblance to me".  Annabel Palma - while in office, she got a lot of criticism for her frequent absenteeism.
 
I think that more important than the gender of the leaders of the countries is the politics of the leaders. The far-right leaders have done poorly in comparison to right of center, moderate and left-leaning leaders. We see the incompetence of the far-right leaders in the US, the UK, Brazil, Russia, etc.
 
I think that more important than the gender of the leaders of the countries is the politics of the leaders. The far-right leaders have done poorly in comparison to right of center, moderate and left-leaning leaders. We see the incompetence of the far-right leaders in the US, the UK, Brazil, Russia, etc.

Yup. I think it's far more that the female leaders are a reflection of the country than the cause of the better performance.
 
Geography probably plays a greater role than gender governance. Simply easier to control in small island countries vs. large land masses.
 
I think it's funny that there is a thread with data about women performing better in at least one measure in a job that is traditionally held by men--and all the usual suspects come up with all kinds of reasons that it isn't because of their gender but that somehow,they have an easier job than their male counterparts.
 
I think it's funny that there is a thread with data about women performing better in at least one measure in a job that is traditionally held by men--and all the usual suspects come up with all kinds of reasons that it isn't because of their gender but that somehow,they have an easier job than their male counterparts.

So your explanation for Belgium is what?
 
I think it's funny that there is a thread with data about women performing better in at least one measure in a job that is traditionally held by men--and all the usual suspects come up with all kinds of reasons that it isn't because of their gender but that somehow,they have an easier job than their male counterparts.

So your explanation for Belgium is what?

Hey, I didn't start this thread and I'm not the one claiming that women have it easier.

Maybe you should explain YOUR posts.
 
I think it's funny that there is a thread with data about women performing better in at least one measure in a job that is traditionally held by men--and all the usual suspects come up with all kinds of reasons that it isn't because of their gender but that somehow,they have an easier job than their male counterparts.

So your explanation for Belgium is what?

Hey, I didn't start this thread and I'm not the one claiming that women have it easier.

Maybe you should explain YOUR posts.

I did. I wrote that it was more likely geography. Small isolated areas vs. large land masses. Not my fault you can't read.

Belgium had the worst response to the coronavirus crisis among OECD countries, EIU says



I don't think the gender of Belgium's PM has anything to do with it. But the OP thesis is obviously bunk.
 
Hey, I didn't start this thread and I'm not the one claiming that women have it easier.

Maybe you should explain YOUR posts.

I did. I wrote that it was more likely geography. Small isolated areas vs. large land masses. Not my fault you can't read.

Belgium had the worst response to the coronavirus crisis among OECD countries, EIU says



I don't think the gender of Belgium's PM has anything to do with it. But the OP thesis is obviously bunk.


What about Netherlands, then?
 
I don't think the gender of Belgium's PM has anything to do with it. But the OP thesis is obviously bunk.

This is just silly. There can be a robust relationship between female leadership and better COVID outcomes despite Belgium having a female leader and a bad outcome.
 
I don't think the gender of Belgium's PM has anything to do with it. But the OP thesis is obviously bunk.

This is just silly. There can be a robust relationship between female leadership and better COVID outcomes despite Belgium having a female leader and a bad outcome.

Belgium is also using a different method for counting covid-related deaths which leads to higher numbers on paper.

https://www.politico.eu/article/why-is-belgiums-death-toll-so-high/

Of Belgium’s registered deaths, 44 percent died in hospital (and were tested). The majority 54 percent died in a nursing home — and only in 7.8 percent of those cases was COVID-19 confirmed as the cause.

Roughly fifty percent were not tested and confirmed to have covid-19. Granted, even if we remove all of those cases which weren't confirmed, it would still be ~430 deaths per one million population right now. Not great, but a little better than France and Mexico. Better than Brazil, USA, Chile, Sweden, Italy, UK, Spain, and Peru's current numbers. Then again, I don't know how those countries did their counts. I doubt they used the same method as Belgium, but it's possible their efforts included more than just hospital confirmed cases.
 
I think it's funny that there is a thread with data about women performing better in at least one measure in a job that is traditionally held by men--and all the usual suspects come up with all kinds of reasons that it isn't because of their gender but that somehow,they have an easier job than their male counterparts.

I think it's funny that feminists think men and women have equal ability and competence, and outcome differences are due to misogyny, except when women are better than men, where outcome differences are due to women's higher talent.
 
I don't think the gender of Belgium's PM has anything to do with it. But the OP thesis is obviously bunk.

This is just silly. There can be a robust relationship between female leadership and better COVID outcomes despite Belgium having a female leader and a bad outcome.

That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
 
I think it's funny that there is a thread with data about women performing better in at least one measure in a job that is traditionally held by men--and all the usual suspects come up with all kinds of reasons that it isn't because of their gender but that somehow,they have an easier job than their male counterparts.

I think it's funny that feminists think men and women have equal ability and competence, and outcome differences are due to misogyny, except when women are better than men, where outcome differences are due to women's higher talent.

That's what cultural Marxism does. All that matters is who, whom? Men - bad. Womxn - good.
 
I don't think the gender of Belgium's PM has anything to do with it. But the OP thesis is obviously bunk.

This is just silly. There can be a robust relationship between female leadership and better COVID outcomes despite Belgium having a female leader and a bad outcome.

That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

It wasn't asserted without evidence, the study is mentioned in the OP. Two seconds of googling gives you the paper:

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3617953

You're basically saying "if there isn't a coefficient of determination of exactly 1.0 then there's nothing to see here". Which is pretty silly. Although this wasn't a correlational study, in the sense that they didn't only use a regression analysis to compare female leaders to male leaders, instead, they used a basic clustering technique, nearest-neighbors, and then compared similar countries that were led by a female to the most similar country that was led by a male. I did not fully grok the details of what goes on with the matching, if they are basically just comparing the all 19 female-led countries to their nearest neighbor and then looking for statistically significant differences. I don't have time to read the links about how this matching technique is normally done, but it seems reasonable and established.

Now, one can always comment on methodological weakness, but you are simply denying that there was a study, and give a nonsensical rebuttal to boot.
 
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