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First hint of 'life after death' in biggest ever scientific study on subject

 
 
 
The article gave me a chuckle. Like most articles is goes for the emotional grab like something you might find on the cover of Time magazine. Once you sort out the bullshit there isn't anything left.
 
First hint of 'life after death' in biggest ever scientific study on subject
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This headline is wrong on several points.

(first hint of "life after death") It is not. The same "evidence" they present has been given for hundreds of years.

(biggest ever) Not even close. There has been an ongoing study for several decades in dozens of hospitals around the world who share their findings to make a unified study.

(scientific study on the subject) This isn't a "scientific study". It is just recording what the patients report. A scientific study would require testing those reports which the study mentioned above is doing. So far the real scientific study has found no corroboration between what the patients report and their tests of those reports.
 
More than that, these are talking of the peri-mortem experiences of people who did not actually die.

"Life after death' would be when you see Aunt Mabel in the hallway 10 years after she died and she tells you where she buried the jewellery. When you check, it's there. And that has a couple of alternate explanations.

Much as it would be lovely to believe it, the persistence of personality after death would be very hard to test and isn't addressed by any of these attempts.
 
spikepipsqueak said:
More than that, these are talking of the peri-mortem experiences of people who did not actually die.

"Life after death' would be when you see Aunt Mabel in the hallway 10 years after she died and she tells you where she buried the jewellery. When you check, it's there. And that has a couple of alternate explanations.

Much as it would be lovely to believe it, the persistence of personality after death would be very hard to test and isn't addressed by any of these attempts.
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You are, of course, right. This article is only addressing the reports of those who were to the point clinical death for a short time but were revived. The serious study I mentioned is examining what is referred as "out of body experience" that patients report occurred while they were "clinically dead" and people who want to believe in life after death cite as proof since Aunt Mabel doesn't appear to be much help.

That more serious study hasn't found any evidence of out of body travel either. What the patients claim to have seen wasn't what was there.
 
Perspicuo said:
First hint of 'life after death' in biggest ever scientific study
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/...r-death-in-biggest-ever-scientific-study.html

Death is a depressingly inevitable consequence of life, but now scientists believe they may have found some light at the end of the tunnel.

The largest ever medical study into near-death and out-of-body experiences has discovered that some awareness may continue even after the brain has shut down completely.
It is a controversial subject which has, until recently, been treated with widespread scepticism.

But scientists at the University of Southampton have spent four years examining more than 2,000 people who suffered cardiac arrests at 15 hospitals in the UK, US and Austria.

And they found that nearly 40 per cent of people who survived described some kind of ‘awareness’ during the time when they were clinically dead before their hearts were restarted.
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Highlighted the inconsistency that is key to selling this crap to those that are easily tricked. Does this study address those that have absolutely no brain activity or those that are "clinically" dead" - which implies significant brain activity.
 
Perspicuo said:
Holy cow. Talk about bad reading comprehension, all of you.
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holy crap what poor attention to detail from you.
The research means your brain knows what is going on after customary criteria of death are met.
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The comments are THAT IS NOT LIFE AFTER DEATH THAT IS POINTING OUT THAT "CLINICAL DEATH" IS NOT NECESSARILY PERMANENT DEATH - NEVER HAS "CLINICAL DEATH" MEANT "BRAIN NO LONGER FUNCTIONING AT ALL", as the article clarly intended to indicate.
It's like talking to religious believers. Back up. Read again. What is the research saying?
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the research is saying, to religious believers, that science has proven that life exists after the brain dies, proving heaven and jesus.
 
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