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There was no intent, much less premeditation.
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His intent was clear in his face as he was doing it.
repoman
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Why would Sony even open up this topic, or respond to a tweet about it?
There is no net positive, especially when small store owners getting rocked is mentioned.
There is no net positive, especially when small store owners getting rocked is mentioned.
Derec
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How is the "protester"? I hope he is not too badly hurt, but why did he advance at police? Should have stayed where he was. The cop probably didn't think he had time to change weapon to something more appropriate.
Which case is that? What city?
What do you think about
- those two NYC lawyers who made Bud Light Molotovs and threw one of them at a police car?
- the "protester" who knocked down a bar owner who then shot him
Derec
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Oh, now you can read minds.
And if killing Floyd was his intent, did he know his medical history and drug habit to know his cunning plan would actually succeed?
Why is it so important to railroad the guy on Murder 1 when something like manslaughter fits the case much better? Because he is black, and black lives just matter more than white ones in Lefty Land?
Derec
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No, obviously manhandling anybody is bad, which is why they should be charged. But they could not have known that he would die on them, which is why I think it wasn't murder.
repoman
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Hope the curfew breakers are all arrested
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1267631698189131779
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1267631698189131779
In this thread Derec still thinks he can make pronouncements without addressing any arguments or citing a single source.
Dude - forget the premeditation. He's charged with third degree murder.
Can you provide your legal theory for why it's inappropriate, since you're been saying it's inappropriate?
How much time would a black store owner get if he restrained a white woman the same say, say after a theft, and she died the same way?
Can we ever expect an answer?
Derec
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I never said it was. Not being independent doesn't mean it's automatically rubbish of course, but when neither autopsy is independent, calling one of them "independent" imbues it with an unjustified air of authority.
Jason Harvestdancer
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Then 2nd Degree.
If Person A takes a potentially lethal action with intent to harm but not kill Person B, and Person B dies, it is still murder. Say Person A swings a shovel at Person B's head...
Derec
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How many sources did you cite in this post?
I guess you missed where Zipr said that it should be 1st degree murder. I was responding to that.
I don't think they will be able to prove a "depraved mind", kind of like in the Freddie Grey case.
But most of the problems I have are with calls (not just Zipr) to charge the police officers with 1st or 2nd degree murder. And I think Ellison will do just that to appease the violent mob.
Let's use a more analogous scenario. If a black cop did a similar thing to a white meth head, there certainly would not be nationwide riots or calls for a 1st degree prosecution by the likes of ZiprHead.
No one is talking about some platonic ideal of independence you clown.
You called the other examiner a liar when I pointed out you didn't understand what the county's autopsy stated.
Why is it impossible for you to actually address anyone's questions? Everything seems to be a deflection.
What purpose does your existence serve?
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Four black guys doing that to a cop...
Derec
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You really think swinging a shovel at somebody's head is comparable with just sitting on them?
This whole discussion has me shaking my head. You guys really think these cops are NOT signalling white supremacy? They are just, what wearing fake hoods for a laugh?
Derec
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I called him a liar because he ignored the factors of fentanyl and methamphetamine intoxication and of cardiovascular disease.
Dismissing these is highly disingenuous.
I don't know. What does yours?
Anyone can read the thread and see which sources I've cited. Most importantly I've cited a probable cause affidavit that was signed by a judge, contains a statement from a county medical examiner and has been used to arrest the offending party.
And again you deflect. The question I'm asking you is the legal theory on the topic of the fucking OP. You've been poisoning this thread with your stupidity long before any riots had happened. I asked you a question about your moral center way back at the beginning of this thread, and it's been disappointing even with the low hopes I started with
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Derec
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And you are a bully. Are you capable of saying anything without insults?
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