France - Macron Wins

[laughing dog]

None of which has anything to do with the topic of this OP.

BTW, the article you cited uses bogus comparisons. The ration of total private and public debt to GDP is a pointless ratio. It ignores the role of assets.

The Topic is France and the problem is the government spending more than it collects in tax revenue. It wouldn't matter who won the election; this would need to be addressed. Increasing taxes alone in future would be problematic as its rates are up to 45%.

That is not the topic of the OP. You confuse your bete noires with reality.

 

[whichphilosophy]

The Topic is France and the problem is the government spending more than it collects in tax revenue. It wouldn't matter who won the election; this would need to be addressed. Increasing taxes alone in future would be problematic as its rates are up to 45%.

That is not the topic of the OP. You confuse your bete noires with reality.

That is exactly what the topic leads to. He won the election so this concerns France; so this is what he should do.

 

[laughing dog]

That is not the topic of the OP. You confuse your bete noires with reality.

That is exactly what the topic leads to. He won the election so this concerns France; so this is what he should do.

No, Macron is under no legal, moral or logical compulsion to deal with your concerns.

 

[Jayjay]

How many of those 600,000 are non-EU spouses of EU-citizens? I doubt there are that many.


I wouldn't worry about France. It has the same incentives to restrict migrants going to UK as it does now. Besides outside EU the UK doesn't have to abide by European courts, and has more room to manouver in deporting people and restricting them access. Cut out the legal EU citizens and immigration is bound to go down.

We need migration into the country for certain skills. Nonetheless quite a few Europeans do marry non Europeans. The UK can only accept so many. As I mentioned the main problem is for the NHS, housing and education to keep up. Given the government is doing zero in this area any expansion in immigration is a problem.

How many is "quite a few"? Do you have any statistics to back up the claim that it's a real problem?

 

[iolo]

We need migration into the country for certain skills. Nonetheless quite a few Europeans do marry non Europeans. The UK can only accept so many. As I mentioned the main problem is for the NHS, housing and education to keep up. Given the government is doing zero in this area any expansion in immigration is a problem.

How many is "quite a few"? Do you have any statistics to back up the claim that it's a real problem?

To keep paying our pensions, a lot more every year. To keep capitalism going with a 'reserve army of labour', about a million more than that.

 

[whichphilosophy]

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We need migration into the country for certain skills. Nonetheless quite a few Europeans do marry non Europeans. The UK can only accept so many. As I mentioned the main problem is for the NHS, housing and education to keep up. Given the government is doing zero in this area any expansion in immigration is a problem.

How many is "quite a few"? Do you have any statistics to back up the claim that it's a real problem?

When working in Asia and the Middle East I have met Germans, British, Italians and some French people who have married Chinese, Vietnmese, Filipina, Japanese and Indian women. THis may be a just a few thousand but nonetheless it is still relevant Later I will see if there any figures.

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That is exactly what the topic leads to. He won the election so this concerns France; so this is what he should do.

No, Macron is under no legal, moral or logical compulsion to deal with your concerns.

If he decides to run his country like a credit card then he will be an imbecile like the others. He owes me nothing and France everything. (Did you like that last one )

 

[iolo]

How many is "quite a few"? Do you have any statistics to back up the claim that it's a real problem?

When working in Asia and the Middle East I have met Germans, British, Italians and some French people who have married Chinese, Vietnmese, Filipina, Japanese and Indian women. THis may be a just a few thousand but nonetheless it is still relevant Later I will see if there any figures.

A common custom round here is for not-terribly-attractive blokes to go off to Thailand to find a bride. Like you, I can't put numbers on it, but there are quite a few round here and everywhere else I've been. It doesn't half improve the looks of the populace!

 

[laughing dog]

If he decides to run his country like a credit card then he will be an imbecile like the others. He owes me nothing and France everything. (Did you like that last one )

He does owe France everything. Which means ignoring simplistic and ignorant advice from all quarters.

 

[whichphilosophy]

When working in Asia and the Middle East I have met Germans, British, Italians and some French people who have married Chinese, Vietnmese, Filipina, Japanese and Indian women. THis may be a just a few thousand but nonetheless it is still relevant Later I will see if there any figures.

A common custom round here is for not-terribly-attractive blokes to go off to Thailand to find a bride. Like you, I can't put numbers on it, but there are quite a few round here and everywhere else I've been. It doesn't half improve the looks of the populace!

I married a lady from the Philippines while I was working in Hong Kong. In fact I was so ugly when I was in junior school, my parents used to pay the local kids to play with me.

Actually Thailand does occur, but when Eurpeans work abroad they meet foreign women. One thing I've been told is that in Thailand, the best lookinhg women are men.

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If he decides to run his country like a credit card then he will be an imbecile like the others. He owes me nothing and France everything. (Did you like that last one )

He does owe France everything. Which means ignoring simplistic and ignorant advice from all quarters.

Unless France can collect revenue in excess of its spending it will continue to spiral into debt and end up a vassal of the Banksters. This is simply basic housekeeping.

 

[whichphilosophy]

We need migration into the country for certain skills. Nonetheless quite a few Europeans do marry non Europeans. The UK can only accept so many. As I mentioned the main problem is for the NHS, housing and education to keep up. Given the government is doing zero in this area any expansion in immigration is a problem.

How many is "quite a few"? Do you have any statistics to back up the claim that it's a real problem?

You will find a lot

TEACHER SHORTAGE
https://www.theguardian.com/education/teacher-shortages


BED SHORTAGES IN HOSPITALS
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-38330110

DOCTOR AND NURSE SHORTAGES
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-35667939

HOUSING SHORTAGES
https://www.ft.com/content/1cac229a-15e6-11e6-b197-a4af20d5575e

 

[Rayschism]

Governments care nothing about basic upkeeping. All they want to do is spend until they drive their couturiers into bankruptcy.

 

[whichphilosophy]

Governments care nothing about basic upkeeping. All they want to do is spend until they drive their couturiers into bankruptcy.

Essentially they spend their way out of a crisis adding to the debt. France is definitely no exception.

 

[laughing dog]

Unless France can collect revenue in excess of its spending it will continue to spiral into debt and end up a vassal of the Banksters. This is simply basic housekeeping.

I repeat - Macron does owe France everything. Which means ignoring simplistic and ignorant advice from all quarters.

 

[Jayjay]

How many is "quite a few"? Do you have any statistics to back up the claim that it's a real problem?

When working in Asia and the Middle East I have met Germans, British, Italians and some French people who have married Chinese, Vietnmese, Filipina, Japanese and Indian women. THis may be a just a few thousand but nonetheless it is still relevant Later I will see if there any figures.

First, of course if you work in Asia and Middle-East, the Europeans you meet there are more likely to marry locals, than the average person in Europe. It's a personal anecdote of a different situation. Second, the people you work with likely would meet the income requirement anyway so they are not an issue. And third, even "a few thousand" out of 600,000 is not really that much.

I doubt it is in thousands though. More likely two or three digit numbers annually.

 

[whichphilosophy]

Unless France can collect revenue in excess of its spending it will continue to spiral into debt and end up a vassal of the Banksters. This is simply basic housekeeping.

I repeat - Macron does owe France everything. Which means ignoring simplistic and ignorant advice from all quarters.

I don't really follow your line of reasoning.

He is aware and needs to perform on this.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...bid-haul-france-economic-malaise-will-harder/

Why Emmanuel Macron's bid to haul France out of its economic malaise will be harder than he thinks
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When working in Asia and the Middle East I have met Germans, British, Italians and some French people who have married Chinese, Vietnmese, Filipina, Japanese and Indian women. THis may be a just a few thousand but nonetheless it is still relevant Later I will see if there any figures.

First, of course if you work in Asia and Middle-East, the Europeans you meet there are more likely to marry locals, than the average person in Europe. It's a personal anecdote of a different situation. Second, the people you work with likely would meet the income requirement anyway so they are not an issue. And third, even "a few thousand" out of 600,000 is not really that much.

I doubt it is in thousands though. More likely two or three digit numbers annually.

It doesn't matter. Human rights violations of even one person is sufficient.

 

[Derec]

Why bother returning them anywhere? They're claiming to be refugees who will be killed if returned, so why not just sink 'em.

That claim is bullshit. Most boat migranst are coming from countries like Nigeria or Bangladesh, where there is no war. And most they have to fear is some ridicule because they failed.
Take this article from a few years ago. Note that the article is pro-migrant and amazingly faults Europe for trying to make mass migration more difficult.
Anyway, here is what the article says about the main protagonist of the piece:
An Ill-Fated Attempt to Reach Fortress Europe

Samani was traveling alone. He had been married for a year to a woman who had been selected as his bride by a friend of his father's. His wife was a stranger to him at first, he says, but after being married to her for a few months he began to love this woman, in a shy, hesitant way.
But she didn't return his love, so he decided to pin his hopes on a life in Europe instead. He hoped that his success in that faraway place would improve his prestige in his village, and that his return, perhaps in a car of his own, would inspire his wife to return his affections.
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Samani, who had hoped to gain his wife's love by making the trip to Europe, was back in front of his hut. He had built it himself, with the help of neighbors. In his village, a man has to own his own house to be permitted to marry.
His wife had heard about the tragedy in the Sahara and for several days she had assumed that her husband hadn't survived the trip. Under tribal rules, a wife is free to remarry after spending 40 days in mourning and Samani isn't sure whether she was glad to see him again.

No word of any war or persecution. Nobody is trying to kill him. There is not even real economic destitution (he is a homeowner); he just wants to improve his "prestige" to curry favor with his hard-to-please wife.
But had he reached "Fortress" (needs more bulwarks) Europe, surely he would have made a bogus asylum claim in order to stay indefinitely at European taxpayers' dime.

 

[Derec]

France's youth unemployment is a staggering 25%.

That alone shows how riduclous the claim is that Europe somehow needs millions of mass Muslim migrants to benefit its economy.
That claim is made by open borders types like Macron.

 

[laughing dog]

I repeat - Macron does owe France everything. Which means ignoring simplistic and ignorant advice from all quarters.

I don't really follow your line of reasoning.

Of course you don't.

He is aware and needs to perform on this.

Macron needs to reform the French economy and not listen to simplistic and ignorant advice from all quarters.

 

[whichphilosophy]

I don't really follow your line of reasoning.

Of course you don't.

He is aware and needs to perform on this.

Macron needs to reform the French economy and not listen to simplistic and ignorant advice from all quarters.

Of course I don't because I mad a logical comment by just pointing out what he should achieve There's a lot of media and others doing the same thing. Of course he would not hold a referendum on staying in Europe.

There again unemployment hovers in the in the mid 20 percent band.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/france/youth-unemployment-rate

Youth Unemployment Rate in France remained unchanged at 23.70 percent in March from 23.70 percent in February of 2017. Youth Unemployment Rate in France averaged 20.15 percent from 1983 until 2017, reaching an all time high of 25.60 percent in November of 2012 and a record low of 14.50 percent in February of 1983.

I guess we mustn't talk about that either.

 

[laughing dog]

Of course you don't.

He is aware and needs to perform on this.

Macron needs to reform the French economy and not listen to simplistic and ignorant advice from all quarters.

Of course I don't because I mad a logical comment by just pointing out what he should achieve

No, you did not.

The state of the French economy is much more the result of regulation and laws than fiscal policy.