Merged Gaza just launched an unprovoked attack on Israel

[TomC]

You said that I said those words. I said absolutely nothing in that post.

You posted it. Nobody else.

What was your reason, if not expressing your opinion? If you did not think it accurate, why did you just post it without any comments?
Tom

 

[ZiprHead]

You said that I said those words. I said absolutely nothing in that post.

You posted it. Nobody else.

What was your reason, if not expressing your opinion? If you did not think it accurate, why did you just post it without any comments?
Tom

Could it have been for discussion of a topic related to the OP?

If I post quotes from Mein Kampf is that my words too?

 

[TomC]

You said that I said those words. I said absolutely nothing in that post.

You posted it. Nobody else.

What was your reason, if not expressing your opinion? If you did not think it accurate, why did you just post it without any comments?
Tom

Could it have been for discussion of a topic related to the OP?

I don't know, since all you did was post a "report" about I$reali mob, mostly children, whipping and kicking some people.
Tom

 

[ZiprHead]

You said that I said those words. I said absolutely nothing in that post.

You posted it. Nobody else.

What was your reason, if not expressing your opinion? If you did not think it accurate, why did you just post it without any comments?
Tom

Could it have been for discussion of a topic related to the OP?

I don't know, since all you did was post a "report" about I$reali mob, mostly children, whipping and kicking some people.
Tom

Wow, nice dishonest editing on your part. Thank you for displaying the real dishonesty of the conservative mindset.

 

[TomC]

Wow, nice dishonest editing on your part. Thank you for displaying the real dishonesty of the conservative mindset.

Wtf?
I quoted it. And you.

The dishonesty is clear, and it's not mine.
Tom

 

[Derec]

That history is from the 1800s to 1948.

So?

The subject of this thread is the situation that has occurred in Palestine since 1948.

Actually the subject of this thread is the war of aggression started by Gaza against Israel on 10/7/2025.

I do not see why events since 1948 should be on topic but events before it off.

 

[Derec]

Zipr, why are you posting random anti-Israel Xes, but are ignoring stories like this one:

 

[DrZoidberg]

If you believe that Exodus is a permanent title to some land, delivered directly by God, you're a Zionist. There are more Zionists in Texas than Israel.

A "Zionist" is somebody who believes that there should be a state of Israel. It does not hinge of believing that Exodus is a land deed.
The only relevance Exodus (and the rest of the Tanakh) has on this discussion is that it proves the historical connection of Jewish people with the land in question, since they have been writing about it for hundreds of years! Even within Exodus (and the rest of the Torah) the composition spans centuries, as there is a long time span between J/E sources on the older end and D/R at the more recent end of the compositional development.

I'm sorry... but who gives a shit what happened thousands of years ago? These are all myths and legends. Myths and legends have power today. But they're just myths and legends. What a coincidence that every people have myths and legends that are self serving. Wow... Such a random thing ( <- sarcasm).

It's great that Jews have a mythical narrative holding them together. But the Palestinians are all Jewish decendents as well. If Exodus applies to Jews in Israel, shouldn't it apply to the Palestinians just as much? Why do the modern Jews (who mostly follow the teachings of Maimonides anyway) get special privileges over the Jews who's ancestors converted to Islam?

 

[DrZoidberg]

Do you think that really happened?

Maybe Xitter is not the best source of international news. Just a thought.
Tom

Orthodox Jews behave like this. That's why the rest of the Jews hate them. I think it's fair to say that Orthodox Jews are the source of all Israels problems. Not only that, but until now Orthodox Jews have been exempt from the military. So they create conflict with the Palestinians but aren't willing to fight to defend Israel when it leads to conflict. They're horrible people. And undeducated. They ONLY study the Torah. Israel is a modern high tech economy. They're essentially a parasitic body within Israel, only creating problems and contributing nothing. They're terrible.

 

[laughing dog]

I don't know

That’s a real issue.

See how responding to part of a snipped post changes the context?

BTW, posting an item with no comment is not necessarily an endorsement or indictment of its content.

 

[laughing dog]

What do Turkey and some movement that sounds like "liquid manure" in German have to do with the Gaza war?

As much, if not more, than Nazi Germany.

There is a difference between comparing Hamas-run Gaza with Nazi Germany vs. getting bogged down in the details of internal Turkish politics.

Yes there is. But that does not rebut my observation.

 

[laughing dog]

Do you think that really happened?

Maybe Xitter is not the best source of international news. Just a thought.
Tom

Orthodox Jews behave like this. That's why the rest of the Jews hate them. I think it's fair to say that Orthodox Jews are the source of all Israels problems. Not only that, but until now Orthodox Jews have been exempt from the military. So they create conflict with the Palestinians but aren't willing to fight to defend Israel when it leads to conflict. They're horrible people. And undeducated. They ONLY study the Torah. Israel is a modern high tech economy. They're essentially a parasitic body within Israel, only creating problems and contributing nothing. They're terrible.

Yet, they are have inordinate political influence on gov’t policy. Even though the Israeli high court has ruled they must serve in the military, the gov’t hadn’t acted on that even though there has been sufficient to time to implement the ruling and there is a pressing need for more reservists ( if reports in the Economist are accurate). And their subsidization continues

So, that hate you observe has yet to be translated into much action.

 

[DrZoidberg]

Do you think that really happened?

Maybe Xitter is not the best source of international news. Just a thought.
Tom

Orthodox Jews behave like this. That's why the rest of the Jews hate them. I think it's fair to say that Orthodox Jews are the source of all Israels problems. Not only that, but until now Orthodox Jews have been exempt from the military. So they create conflict with the Palestinians but aren't willing to fight to defend Israel when it leads to conflict. They're horrible people. And undeducated. They ONLY study the Torah. Israel is a modern high tech economy. They're essentially a parasitic body within Israel, only creating problems and contributing nothing. They're terrible.

Yet, they are have inordinate political influence on gov’t policy. Even though the Israeli high court has ruled they must serve in the military, the gov’t hadn’t acted on that even though there has been sufficient to time to implement the ruling and there is a pressing need for more reservists ( if reports in the Economist are accurate). And their subsidization continues

So, that hate you observe has yet to be translated into much action.

Israel is a free country. It operates on a respect for human rights. That's the problem with getting Orthodox Jews to join in with building the nation.

If Israel sacrifices that they will be no better than Hamas. So it'll continue to be a problem for Israel

 

[DrZoidberg]

And now apparently the Jews control the weather. Those dastardly Jews

 

[laughing dog]

Do you think that really happened?

Maybe Xitter is not the best source of international news. Just a thought.
Tom

Orthodox Jews behave like this. That's why the rest of the Jews hate them. I think it's fair to say that Orthodox Jews are the source of all Israels problems. Not only that, but until now Orthodox Jews have been exempt from the military. So they create conflict with the Palestinians but aren't willing to fight to defend Israel when it leads to conflict. They're horrible people. And undeducated. They ONLY study the Torah. Israel is a modern high tech economy. They're essentially a parasitic body within Israel, only creating problems and contributing nothing. They're terrible.

Yet, they are have inordinate political influence on gov’t policy. Even though the Israeli high court has ruled they must serve in the military, the gov’t hadn’t acted on that even though there has been sufficient to time to implement the ruling and there is a pressing need for more reservists ( if reports in the Economist are accurate). And their subsidization continues

So, that hate you observe has yet to be translated into much action.

Israel is a free country. It operates on a respect for human rights. That's the problem with getting Orthodox Jews to join in with building the nation.

If Israel sacrifices that they will be no better than Hamas. So it'll continue to be a problem for Israel

Subsidizing ignorance and bigotry is a peculiar method of respecting human rights.

 

[DrZoidberg]

Do you think that really happened?

Maybe Xitter is not the best source of international news. Just a thought.
Tom

Orthodox Jews behave like this. That's why the rest of the Jews hate them. I think it's fair to say that Orthodox Jews are the source of all Israels problems. Not only that, but until now Orthodox Jews have been exempt from the military. So they create conflict with the Palestinians but aren't willing to fight to defend Israel when it leads to conflict. They're horrible people. And undeducated. They ONLY study the Torah. Israel is a modern high tech economy. They're essentially a parasitic body within Israel, only creating problems and contributing nothing. They're terrible.

Yet, they are have inordinate political influence on gov’t policy. Even though the Israeli high court has ruled they must serve in the military, the gov’t hadn’t acted on that even though there has been sufficient to time to implement the ruling and there is a pressing need for more reservists ( if reports in the Economist are accurate). And their subsidization continues

So, that hate you observe has yet to be translated into much action.

Israel is a free country. It operates on a respect for human rights. That's the problem with getting Orthodox Jews to join in with building the nation.

If Israel sacrifices that they will be no better than Hamas. So it'll continue to be a problem for Israel

Subsidizing ignorance and bigotry is a peculiar method of respecting human rights.

The antisemitic filter is strong in the press today

 

[ZiprHead]

That history is from the 1800s to 1948.

So?

The subject of this thread is the situation that has occurred in Palestine since 1948.

Actually the subject of this thread is the war of aggression started by Gaza against Israel on 10/7/2025.

I do not see why events since 1948 should be on topic but events before it off.

Yeah, nothing happened in Israel before 10/7.

 

[ZiprHead]

Zipr, why are you posting random anti-Israel Xes, but are ignoring stories like this one:

They make it quite easy to ignore, don't they?

 

[ZiprHead]

And now apparently the Jews control the weather. Those dastardly Jews

I have no idea what that means.

 

[Derec]

The subject of this thread is the situation that has occurred in Palestine since 1948.

Actually the subject of this thread is the war of aggression started by Gaza against Israel on 10/7/2025.

I do not see why events since 1948 should be on topic but events before it off.

Yeah, nothing happened in Israel before 10/7.

Weird objection from somebody who objected to me bringing up something from before 1948.
And while earlier events sure influence what happens in the present, my statement that the actual "subject of this thread" is the war of aggression against Israel that started on 10/7.