Good guy with an AK47 ...

[TSwizzle]

Store owner shoots would be robbers;

Cope was behind the counter of Norco Market & Liquor shop in Norco, Calif., when he noticed a gang of men armed with guns creeping up to the door just before 3 a.m. 'There wasn't much time to think about' what to do, Cope said, as a 23-year-old man entered the store with an AR-15 raised and ready to shoot, forcing Cope to immediately fire off his shotgun, hitting the man in the arm and sending the group scrambling. 'He shot my arm off! He shot my arm off!' the man can be heard shouting as he frantically runs back to a black BMW SUV that deputies later said was reported stolen.

Craig Cope, 80, said 'the crime rate is escalating and it's going to continue to escalate until they start putting the people away that are doing the bad things' after his harrowing shootout was caught in dramatic surveillance footage. While he refrained from 'naming names,' he said 'there are a whole lot of them that are creating major problems for business owners,' and complained 'a lot' of criminals are 'career criminals, (and) they need to be locked up.' The way to prevent crimes like this from repeatedly occurring is to 'put pressure on the politicians because they got no clue what's really going on out here in the real world.'

Daily Mail

Three bad guys arrested. Probably out on no bail by now.

 

[laughing dog]

No. There's a very good reason for that timer and a lot more laws should have such timers.

We do have an example of what happens with gun laws with no timer: NFA items. (Machine guns, suppressors, guns over .50 cal etc.) Local law enforcement can de-facto ban them by simply trashcanning background checks for them.

You make a good point. Maybe the time should be extended then.

The 72 hours we do currently is fine--it's normally all by computer anyway. There's no need to extend it just because a few places can't find their ass.

Yeah, it is certainly unreasonable to add to the waiting time by a day or week for a firearm in order to reduce the probability of it getting directly into the wrong hands and then possibly saving a live or two.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

No. There's a very good reason for that timer and a lot more laws should have such timers.

We do have an example of what happens with gun laws with no timer: NFA items. (Machine guns, suppressors, guns over .50 cal etc.) Local law enforcement can de-facto ban them by simply trashcanning background checks for them.

You make a good point. Maybe the time should be extended then.

The 72 hours we do currently is fine--it's normally all by computer anyway. There's no need to extend it just because a few places can't find their ass.

Yeah, it is certainly unreasonable to add to the waiting time by a day or week for a firearm in order to reduce the probability of it getting directly into the wrong hands and then possibly saving a live or two.

The number that slip by are small. Without a clock breathing down their necks they would be even slower. 72 hours should be plenty, there's no need to give them extra.

(And note that I would apply this general approach to most government permits. Sitting on it is the same as approving it. Do your fucking job!)