Half of beneficiaries of NYC's new healthcare program are illegals

[Derec]

Half the 600000 residents aided by NYC Care are undocumented immigrants

Tell me again how great for the economy these illegals are.
And by the way, the more benefits we keep giving illegals, the more incentive more of them have to keep coming illegally.

What should happen, in addition to better border security, is to remove all incentives for illegals to come. No health or education benefits, no driver's licenses, no ability to work, and if at all possible, no birthright citizenship for anchor babies.

Unfortunately, we are moving in the opposite direction by giving more and more benefits to illegals. DeBlasio is a fucking traitor!

 

[AirPoh]

Half the 600000 residents aided by NYC Care are undocumented immigrants

Tell me again how great for the economy these illegals are.
And by the way, the more benefits we keep giving illegals, the more incentive more of them have to keep coming illegally.

What should happen, in addition to better border security, is to remove all incentives for illegals to come. No health or education benefits, no driver's licenses, no ability to work, and if at all possible, no birthright citizenship for anchor babies.

Unfortunately, we are moving in the opposite direction by giving more and more benefits to illegals. DeBlasio is a fucking traitor!

Incentive to come here is what made America great in the first place. Why do you hate the United States of America?

 

[poster]

It's the humane thing to do, Derec. Perhaps the answer is not to look to hire people at lower rates based on their ethnicity, but hire people at the same higher rate regardless. Then none of your rants would matter. Not that thy matter to me to begin with. But perhaps looking at solutions rather than inventing issues to bitch about? Just a suggestion.

 

[dismal]

Half the 600000 residents aided by NYC Care are undocumented immigrants

Tell me again how great for the economy these illegals are.
And by the way, the more benefits we keep giving illegals, the more incentive more of them have to keep coming illegally.

What should happen, in addition to better border security, is to remove all incentives for illegals to come. No health or education benefits, no driver's licenses, no ability to work, and if at all possible, no birthright citizenship for anchor babies.

Unfortunately, we are moving in the opposite direction by giving more and more benefits to illegals. DeBlasio is a fucking traitor!

Incentive to come here is what made America great in the first place. Why do you hate the United States of America?

Surely you can understand there is a difference between people who come here to work and people who come here to take from others?

People who earn a wage someone else pays voluntarily are by definition contributing something of value. People who take are by definition lowering the living standards of everyone else.

 

[AirPoh]

Half the 600000 residents aided by NYC Care are undocumented immigrants

Tell me again how great for the economy these illegals are.
And by the way, the more benefits we keep giving illegals, the more incentive more of them have to keep coming illegally.

What should happen, in addition to better border security, is to remove all incentives for illegals to come. No health or education benefits, no driver's licenses, no ability to work, and if at all possible, no birthright citizenship for anchor babies.

Unfortunately, we are moving in the opposite direction by giving more and more benefits to illegals. DeBlasio is a fucking traitor!

Incentive to come here is what made America great in the first place. Why do you hate the United States of America?

Surely you can understand there is a difference between people who come here to work and people who come here to take from others?

People who earn a wage someone else pays voluntarily are by definition contributing something of value. People who take are by definition lowering the living standards of everyone else.

Health care for all raises living standards.

 

[PyramidHead]

So?

 

[poster]

Half the 600000 residents aided by NYC Care are undocumented immigrants

Tell me again how great for the economy these illegals are.
And by the way, the more benefits we keep giving illegals, the more incentive more of them have to keep coming illegally.

What should happen, in addition to better border security, is to remove all incentives for illegals to come. No health or education benefits, no driver's licenses, no ability to work, and if at all possible, no birthright citizenship for anchor babies.

Unfortunately, we are moving in the opposite direction by giving more and more benefits to illegals. DeBlasio is a fucking traitor!

Incentive to come here is what made America great in the first place. Why do you hate the United States of America?

Surely you can understand there is a difference between people who come here to work and people who come here to take from others?

People who earn a wage someone else pays voluntarily are by definition contributing something of value. People who take are by definition lowering the living standards of everyone else.

Do you feel the same way when someone in line ahead of you purchases the last item you came to buy?

Members of any species migrate to where survival seems surest. You can't fault them for that, unless, that is, you don't see them as members of a species, no less your own.

Might that be the case?

 

[dismal]

Surely you can understand there is a difference between people who come here to work and people who come here to take from others?

People who earn a wage someone else pays voluntarily are by definition contributing something of value. People who take are by definition lowering the living standards of everyone else.

Health care for all raises living standards.

A simple "no" would have sufficed.

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Surely you can understand there is a difference between people who come here to work and people who come here to take from others?

People who earn a wage someone else pays voluntarily are by definition contributing something of value. People who take are by definition lowering the living standards of everyone else.

Do you feel the same way when someone in line ahead of you purchases the last item you came to buy?

Members of any species migrate to where survival seems surest. You can't fault them for that, unless, that is, you don't see them as members of a species, no less your own.

Might that be the case?

I don't fault someone for coming to get free stuff, no. I agree that it's human nature. If you hand out free stuff, people will come and take it.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Because there just isn't enough suffering in NYC.

 

[poster]

Do you feel the same way when someone in line ahead of you purchases the last item you came to buy?

Members of any species migrate to where survival seems surest. You can't fault them for that, unless, that is, you don't see them as members of a species, no less your own.

Might that be the case?

I don't fault someone for coming to get free stuff, no. I agree that it's human nature. If you hand out free stuff, people will come and take it.

*Said in my best Ronald Reagan voice* There you go again.

You assume that these are people without integrity. They are not coming for the free stuff, they are looking to work for a better life for themselves and their families.

Surely you can see how your views might be interpreted as racist? I myself am not sure about that, but you definitely sound cheap.

 

[dismal]

Do you feel the same way when someone in line ahead of you purchases the last item you came to buy?

Members of any species migrate to where survival seems surest. You can't fault them for that, unless, that is, you don't see them as members of a species, no less your own.

Might that be the case?

I don't fault someone for coming to get free stuff, no. I agree that it's human nature. If you hand out free stuff, people will come and take it.

*Said in my best Ronald Reagan voice* There you go again.

You assume that these are people without integrity. They are not coming for the free stuff, they are looking to work for a better life for themselves and their families.

Surely you can see how your views might be interpreted as racist? I myself am not sure about that, but you definitely sound cheap.

And, according to the article, they're taking a lot of free stuff.

If your argument requires denying reality to succeed, it may not be that good of an argument.

 

[TSwizzle]

That's nothing compared to what the Dems in California want to do;

California Gov. Gavin Newsom on Monday asked Congress and the White House to empower states to develop "a single-payer health system to achieve universal coverage, contain costs and promote quality and affordability."

 

[PyramidHead]

Nobody should be able to claim a basic survival necessity as their property, such that somebody utilizing it is best described as "taking from others"

 

[poster]

*Said in my best Ronald Reagan voice* There you go again.

You assume that these are people without integrity. They are not coming for the free stuff, they are looking to work for a better life for themselves and their families.

Surely you can see how your views might be interpreted as racist? I myself am not sure about that, but you definitely sound cheap.

And, according to the article, they're taking a lot of free stuff.

If your argument requires denying reality to succeed, it may not be that good of an argument.

It's USA Today. What do you expect?

 

[dismal]

Nobody should be able to claim a basic survival necessity as their property, such that somebody utilizing it is best described as "taking from others"

I'm defining taking from others as "taking from others". I don't believe that most people need to take from others to survive. Your opinion of these people must be extraordinarily low.

 

[poster]

Unbelievable!

 

[PyramidHead]

Nobody should be able to claim a basic survival necessity as their property, such that somebody utilizing it is best described as "taking from others"

I'm defining taking from others as "taking from others". I don't believe that most people need to take from others to survive. Your opinion of these people must be extraordinarily low.

You're wrong on all counts, buddy.

I'm defining taking from others as "taking from others".

Without explaining why something was "from others" and why anybody should respect the legitimacy of that ownership, who cares?

I don't believe that most people need to take from others to survive.

Not if they have money and live under a system that places survival necessities behind a tollbooth. Granted. Does that describe most people, though? In the world? In history? I doubt it.

Your opinion of these people must be extraordinarily low.

Right, because I'm the one saying they deserve to live. I'll let you know when I'm done writing my public apology for having such a low opinion of them.

 

[AirPoh]

*Said in my best Ronald Reagan voice* There you go again.

You assume that these are people without integrity. They are not coming for the free stuff, they are looking to work for a better life for themselves and their families.

Surely you can see how your views might be interpreted as racist? I myself am not sure about that, but you definitely sound cheap.

And, according to the article, they're taking a lot of free stuff.

If your argument requires denying reality to succeed, it may not be that good of an argument.

Can you point out where it says that is why they are coming here?

 

[dismal]

You're wrong on all counts, buddy.

I'm defining taking from others as "taking from others".

Without explaining why something was "from others" and why anybody should respect the legitimacy of that ownership, who cares?

I don't believe that most people need to take from others to survive.

Not if they have money and live under a system that places survival necessities behind a tollbooth. Granted. Does that describe most people, though? In the world? In history? I doubt it.

Your opinion of these people must be extraordinarily low.

Right, because I'm the one saying they deserve to live. I'll let you know when I'm done writing my public apology for having such a low opinion of them.

You're unquestionably the one trying to conflate "taking stuff from others" with "survival".

 

[PyramidHead]

You're wrong on all counts, buddy.


Without explaining why something was "from others" and why anybody should respect the legitimacy of that ownership, who cares?


Not if they have money and live under a system that places survival necessities behind a tollbooth. Granted. Does that describe most people, though? In the world? In history? I doubt it.

Your opinion of these people must be extraordinarily low.

Right, because I'm the one saying they deserve to live. I'll let you know when I'm done writing my public apology for having such a low opinion of them.

You're unquestionably the one trying to conflate "taking stuff from others" with "survival".

When the stuff is access to health care services... yeah, what of it?