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Hillary picks her VP

Agreed. Kasich wouldn't agree to it and it would still only pull a few percent to Hillary, but that's all she needs to close the casket on Trump. The trouble is that the secret service would be working overtime to keep away all the nut-job assassins trying to close the literal casket on Hillary.
Not to mention impeachment. To become impeachment-proof Hillary's best bet would be somebody from the left, like Warren or Bernie.
 
Agreed. Kasich wouldn't agree to it and it would still only pull a few percent to Hillary, but that's all she needs to close the casket on Trump. The trouble is that the secret service would be working overtime to keep away all the nut-job assassins trying to close the literal casket on Hillary.
Not to mention impeachment. To become impeachment-proof Hillary's best bet would be somebody from the left, like Warren or Bernie.

I've never really thought the "impeachment insurance" factor in selecting a running mate was a big deal, just in general terms. And in the specific context of 2016, I can't see it as much of an issue. The House will very likely remain under Republican control and there wouldn't be anything to stop them to bringing impeachment charges, but a conviction in the Senate requires a two-thirds vote. Even if the Democrats don't regain control of the Senate, they're going to have a minimum of 46-48 seats in the Senate, so a conviction would require a minimum of about a third of them to defect, and that isn't going to happen without wrongdoing so egregious that no amount of "impeachment insurance" could save the day.
 
Not to mention impeachment. To become impeachment-proof Hillary's best bet would be somebody from the left, like Warren or Bernie.

I've never really thought the "impeachment insurance" factor in selecting a running mate was a big deal, just in general terms. And in the specific context of 2016, I can't see it as much of an issue. The House will very likely remain under Republican control and there wouldn't be anything to stop them to bringing impeachment charges, but a conviction in the Senate requires a two-thirds vote. Even if the Democrats don't regain control of the Senate, they're going to have a minimum of 46-48 seats in the Senate, so a conviction would require a minimum of about a third of them to defect, and that isn't going to happen without wrongdoing so egregious that no amount of "impeachment insurance" could save the day.
Maybe not impeachment, but having Al Sharpton as her VP will probably assist in getting legislation past Republicans.
 
Maybe not impeachment, but having Al Sharpton as her VP will probably assist in getting legislation past Republicans.
How? VP only votes when there is a tie in the Senate and there any VP would do.

Besides, notorious racist Al Sharpton? It would be like Trump selecting David Duke as his running mate.
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Also, remember this?
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It's sounding like she's going to pick some bland and generic white guy. It would be nice if she stretched a bit and did something unconventional, but it's not like her campaign is in any kind of trouble and she needs to shake things up and take some risks.

The most important single thing for Clinton and the Democratic party to do is to find a basis to re-establish the connection with labor, the workingman and the middle class. To realize that triangularization and Republican-lite isn't going to work. That these things only make the Republicans' policies that are killing the middle class sound more illegitimate and sane than they are.

Number one on this list is to declare victory in the identity based cultural wars and to turn their attention to the class based economic war that the vast majority of Americans have been losing for forty years. As things stand now Clinton and the Democrats stand a very high risk of Trump and the Republicans hypocritically taking up the banner of the middle class and the middle class's problems of wage stagnation and reduced job opportunity.
 
I'll be a pig and say she needs a white male of reputation who is big on defense. She needs a bit of an attack dog who can eat Trumpy.
 
Kissinger is too old, and in terms of technicality, he is still a foreigner when it comes to rising to the presidency. I frankly don't think we should be concerning ourselves with a choice between two warmongers in the first place. Both Hillary and Trump are advocates of smashing opposition worldwide with military power....exactly what is destroying this country from the inside.
 
... exactly what is destroying this country from the inside.

Agree with that anyway. When I see a video of a cop jumping on the hood of a car and going full Rambo on the people in the front seat I think we are dealing with chickens coming home to roost. We're becoming a nation of lone wolves.
 
Kasich sounds like a brilliant choice to me.
Except he is a stealth a bit far right-winger. Not crazy, but certainly willing to bankrupt a state to give rich people more money. His plan worked because it wasn't as heavy as Kansas and the growth we've seen under Obama.
 
Kissinger is too old, and in terms of technicality, he is still a foreigner when it comes to rising to the presidency.
Are you sure he wasn't "a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution"? That's a bona fine natural born citizen loophole.
 
Tim Kaine, Senator from Virginia. Safe, centrist, moderately liberal. Not much to offer the Bernie brigade. But may help pull in a few GOP voters who won't vote Trump. Can't say I am enthusiastic. But he is not a radical or hothead.
 
Wow. You can feel the enthusiastiam. Woo hoo.

Go ... guy who's name I've already forgotten.
 
It's Kaine.

WOOOOOO!!! ... Zzzzzzz

But it had to be a non-controversial white guy. I hope this guy is a good shit talker though--like Biden was for Obama.


To me, this indicates that this is going to be the Hillary Show 24/7. She didn't pick an attack dog because she intends on taking that role.
 
WOOOOOO!!! ... Zzzzzzz

But it had to be a non-controversial white guy. I hope this guy is a good shit talker though--like Biden was for Obama.


To me, this indicates that this is going to be the Hillary Show 24/7. She didn't pick an attack dog because she intends on taking that role.

She doesn't have to pick an attack dog or do it herself. There are plenty of other Democrats as well as Super Pacs to do that for her. The anti-Trump ads have been airing here for about a month already.
 
To me, this indicates that this is going to be the Hillary Show 24/7. She didn't pick an attack dog because she intends on taking that role.

Yeah that.

Chris Hayes had a good point, though. Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Sherrod Brown - they will be far more effective as committee leaders in Congress than they would be as V.P.'s. As congresscritters, they can also continue to force HRC to the left.

Only thing I am worried about is that the combination of the irrational hatred for HRC by some on the far-left and the ZZZZZZZZZZ factor of Tim Kaine will depress voter turn-out
 
Wow. You can feel the enthusiastiam. Woo hoo.

Go ... guy who's name I've already forgotten.

I think that she needed a non-controversial pick. He'll deliver some white people. Hopefully deliver a swing state. And calm some of the craziness down.
 
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