Split Historical Genocide - Derail From Sudan Massacre

[DrZoidberg]

How I went about making my argument was wrong. What I'm trying to say isn't. Ethnic cleansing isn’t unique to Europe or colonialism. Civilizations have been eliminating or relocating populations based on identity since the earliest empires, Assyrian deportations, Chinese frontier purges, Mongol massacres, and Ottoman relocations all fit the pattern. What changed with Europe wasn’t the idea but the infrastructure, modern states turned ethnic dominance into formal policy, justified by race science and nationalism rather than raw conquest.

The massacres in Sudan differ from Mongol or early Ottoman atrocities in motive and structure. The Mongols’ violence was a military strategy to enforce surrender, not ethnic purity. The Ottomans began as conquerors too, but by their decline were already showing the modern and learned logic of homogenizing populations, culminating in the Armenian Genocide.

What’s happening in Sudan today ain't a god damn conquest, it’s internal ethnic cleansing. It’s about erasing specific groups, not expanding rule. The pattern of mass killing repeats through history, but the ideology behind it has evolved, from imperial dominance to ethnic purification.

Wait a minute. What western colonialism introduced around the world was that war wasn't equated with ethnic cleansing.

First invented by Cyrus the great. Ca 600 BC. The idea made it to the Greeks, then the Romans and then spread around the world in the age of colonialism.

The Chinese arguably came up with it indipendantly, sort of.

Scientific racism was invented until at the end if the 19'th century. It was a backward inference trying to explain how the west managed to conquer the world. When Europe began on the imperial project, in the 15th - 16th centuries, it was from a position of civilisational inferiority.

Up until the late 18th century Europe were terrified of the Ottomans and felt inferior, cultually and technologically.

It wasn't until Napoleon conquered Egypt European confidence exploded. Before this the British administrators looked up to Indians. As made evidence of all the Brits in India "going native".

Same deal with how the Europeans viewed the Chinese.

The only people Europens consistently looked down upon as inferior were sub-saharan Africans, Native Americans and the various technologically stone age tribes around the world.

Its also interesting that scientiffic racism popped up out of nowhere ca 1870 and collapsed around 1970. From then on it is viewed with great suspicion by the mainstream. Even when westerners today are racist they will jump through all manner of intelectual hoops to convince themselves they're not.

Anyway... I think its factually incorrect to see genocide or ethnic cleansing as a especially western thing. Its not. Westerners have historically been less genocidal than any other imperial power in history