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How do you envision Heaven?

 
 
 
If you are a Mormon I believe your pets and family go along. It used to be a black could only get in attached to a white family.
 
Depends on whether you are Catholic or Protestant:
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steve_bank said:
If you are a Mormon I believe your pets and family go along. It used to be a black could only get in attached to a white family.
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What about Hispanics and Asians? Are they covered under the Curse of Ham or does Moroni consider them to be unofficial white people for the purposes of salvation?
 
Tom Sawyer said:
Also, I'm unclear about whether or not my pets get into Heaven. What's the latest on that?

If they are, what about other animals? If my dog is part of a litter of eight puppies but only four get adopted and the others are put down by the animal shelter, would my dog get to meet her unadopted litter mates in Heaven? What if one of the adopted dog's owners mistakenly joins up with the Third Reformation Baptist Church of West Philadelphia instead of the Fourth Ecclesiastical Baptist Church of Eastern Pennsylvania and has his soul cast into Hell for heresy as a result - does the dog get damned for eternity with him or does it get to go to Heaven anyways even though it pooped on the carpet that one time?
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In the last ten years or so, Christians have decided that you will be reunited with your dogs in heaven. The dogs cross the Rainbow Bridge to enter. I'm not sure if cats get to go. I sort of like the idea because heaven without dogs would certainly be hell to me, assuming I believed in that bullshit.

I have a copy of an old non sequitur cartoon on my frig door. It's a dog sitting behind the heavenly throne looking down at a shocked human. The caption reads, "Well yes...considering you people have been spelling my name backward all this time, I imagine this would come as a bit of a surprise to you".
 
Quintessence. The ultimate unity of all things. I don't think of heaven or enlightenment, etc as a physical geographic location with an aesthetic, so much as a coming-together of all things. The overall tapestry of which our consious lives are strands, but are only strands.

You mention the Bible. The relevant passage, to me, is thus:

"Jesus said, "If the Archons (leaders of the world) say to you, 'See, the kingdom of heaven is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the inheritors of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty, and you are the poverty."
 
How do I envision heaven?

Foreplay, sex, multiple, recurring orgasms, afterplay, spooning, pillow (or cloud) talk, cuddling and dozing until the next gradual arousal. Rinse and repeat for eternity with breaks for hot snacks and cold drinks.

Or in a nutshell, quintessence.

I'm being fairly serious.
 
I don't envision what heaven is like for the same reason I don't spend time imagining what kind of homes faeries live in: they don't exist.

If I'm going to waste time imagining things that don't exist, it better involve a sci-fi/fantasy franchise or a comic book or a computer game.
 
Politesse said:
Quintessence. The ultimate unity of all things. I don't think of heaven or enlightenment, etc as a physical geographic location with an aesthetic, so much as a coming-together of all things. The overall tapestry of which our consious lives are strands, but are only strands.

You mention the Bible. The relevant passage, to me, is thus:

"Jesus said, "If the Archons (leaders of the world) say to you, 'See, the kingdom of heaven is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the inheritors of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty, and you are the poverty."
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biblegateway.com doesn't recognize this as being a part of the bible.
 
Rhea said:
Politesse said:
Quintessence. The ultimate unity of all things. I don't think of heaven or enlightenment, etc as a physical geographic location with an aesthetic, so much as a coming-together of all things. The overall tapestry of which our consious lives are strands, but are only strands.

You mention the Bible. The relevant passage, to me, is thus:

"Jesus said, "If the Archons (leaders of the world) say to you, 'See, the kingdom of heaven is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the inheritors of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty, and you are the poverty."
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biblegateway.com doesn't recognize this as being a part of the bible.
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Yeah, I wondered about that, too. But I found an apparent match in the non-canonical "Gospel of Thomas".

http://gnosis.org/naghamm/gosthom.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Thomas
 
Rhea said:
Politesse said:
Quintessence. The ultimate unity of all things. I don't think of heaven or enlightenment, etc as a physical geographic location with an aesthetic, so much as a coming-together of all things. The overall tapestry of which our consious lives are strands, but are only strands.

You mention the Bible. The relevant passage, to me, is thus:

"Jesus said, "If the Archons (leaders of the world) say to you, 'See, the kingdom of heaven is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the inheritors of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty, and you are the poverty."
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biblegateway.com doesn't recognize this as being a part of the bible.
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It didn't make it in to that particular Bible; it is the third verse of the Gospel of Thomas, lost in the orthodox purge of the 4th century.

There is an equivalent, if reduced, saying to be found in the canonical gospels, Luke 17:20-21. But I like Thomas' version better.
 
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