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How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

ZiprHead said:
barbos said:
ZiprHead said:
barbos said:
ZiprHead said:
When did he say that? It certainly wasn't in the video I posted.
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It was in that interview.
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No, it wasn't. I watched it in its entirety.
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I have not watched it, but I know you are incorrect:
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:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:

And a link to a web site no one has ever heard of??? :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:
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You are unbelievable.


And I think that was lost at the end of the Cold War, because we were the only power in the world, and so we assumed this responsibility of sort of becoming the global government in many cases, trying to solve every problem. And there are terrible things happening in the world. There are. And then there are things that are terrible that impact our national interest directly, and we need to prioritize those again. So it’s not normal for the world to simply have a unipolar power. That was not – that was an anomaly. It was a product of the end of the Cold War, but eventually you were going to reach back to a point where you had a multipolar world, multi-great powers in different parts of the planet. We face that now with China and to some extent Russia, and then you have rogue states like Iran and North Korea you have to deal with.
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Looks like I was right and Ziprhead was wrong on both counts:
It also happens to be the reality on the ground. First, let me say this. We think what Putin did was terrible: invading a country, the atrocities he’s committed. He did horrible things. But what – the dishonesty that has existed is that we somehow led people to believe that Ukraine would be able not just to defeat Russia but destroy them, push them all the way back to what the world looked like in 2012 or 2014, before the Russians took Crimea and the like. And then the result, what they’ve been asking for the last year and a half, is to fund a stalemate, a protracted stalemate, in which human suffering continues. Meanwhile Ukraine is being set back 100 years; their energy grid is being wiped out. I mean, someone’s going to have to pay for all this reconstruction after the fact. And how many Ukrainians have left Ukraine, living in other countries now? They may never return. I mean, that’s their future, and it’s in danger in that regard.
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Again, Rubio is an asshole and a liar, and his whole interview is mostly lies. With these two exceptions where he parroted .... Putin.
 
Speaking of Elf's factories USAID funded. One of them was in Tbilisi. And now that data was leaked, some of the relocants who ran from Russia to Georgia after the start of the SMO were surprised by finding their names on the list of "elfs". It turns out that they were using these USAID paid structures to arrange relocation, sending them scans of their passports.
In other words these people in USAID paid outfits used their passports to use them as fake employees to scam USAID.
 
Ukrainians are vanishing into Russia. These people track them down.

MOSCOW — The last time Nadezhda Yevdokimova saw her husband was nearly three years ago, when he was dragged from their car by Russian soldiers at a checkpoint in northeastern Ukraine littered with corpses and burned-out tanks.
That winter, after months of excruciating silence, Nadezhda, now in Europe, received a call from an unknown Russian number. Her husband, Vlad, was alive, said the voice on the phone, and was now being held in a prison inside Russia. The stranger had found her name and number on a tiny scrap of paper, smuggled out of Vlad’s cell in a spool of thread.

Nadezhda would later discover that the man who called her that day was part of a constellation of volunteers and insiders in Russia risking their lives — occasionally for money, but usually for nothing — to pass on crucial information about the Ukrainians who have vanished into Russia’s sprawling penal system.

Vlad is one of thousands of Ukrainian civilians who lawyers and activists say have been illegally swept up as Russian forces have advanced and occupied swaths of Ukrainian territory, disappearing into prisons, detention centers and torture cells across Russia and occupied Ukraine.
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Such nice friends you've got there, Barbos.
 
ZiprHead said:
Ukrainians are vanishing into Russia. These people track them down.

MOSCOW — The last time Nadezhda Yevdokimova saw her husband was nearly three years ago, when he was dragged from their car by Russian soldiers at a checkpoint in northeastern Ukraine littered with corpses and burned-out tanks.
That winter, after months of excruciating silence, Nadezhda, now in Europe, received a call from an unknown Russian number. Her husband, Vlad, was alive, said the voice on the phone, and was now being held in a prison inside Russia. The stranger had found her name and number on a tiny scrap of paper, smuggled out of Vlad’s cell in a spool of thread.

Nadezhda would later discover that the man who called her that day was part of a constellation of volunteers and insiders in Russia risking their lives — occasionally for money, but usually for nothing — to pass on crucial information about the Ukrainians who have vanished into Russia’s sprawling penal system.

Vlad is one of thousands of Ukrainian civilians who lawyers and activists say have been illegally swept up as Russian forces have advanced and occupied swaths of Ukrainian territory, disappearing into prisons, detention centers and torture cells across Russia and occupied Ukraine.
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Such nice friends you've got there, Barbos.
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Complete and utter lie.
 
So Green Goblin offered Trump a bribe and Trump appears to react to it :D
Trouble is, the RareEarth metals technically don't really exist in "Ukraine" (Lithium is not RareEarth)
And Lithium at least is already in .... Russian controlled territory, so it's in Russia.

Ukraine has some Scandium deposits which is RareEarth, and it is still in Ukraine controlled territory but it is not remarkable.
US itself and other countries have way more of everything.
 
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Finally, UK is opening up for boots on the ground in Ukraine.

www.bbc.com

Starmer 'ready' to put UK troops on ground in Ukraine to protect peace

Sir Keir Starmer said securing a lasting peace in Ukraine was "essential" to deter Vladimir Putin from future aggression.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

While I think Trump is a fucking idiot. I like that we in Europe have woken up to the reality that big Daddy USA isn't automatically going to do our dirty work for us.

Let's kick Russian butt!!!
 
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