How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[Elixir]

Today (May 2 2024) vis a 10 years anniversary of Odessa May 2 massacre, organized by ukro-nazi regime.

Wasn’t that when the out of control Nazi Russian dictator invaded Crimea?

 

[TV and credit cards]

Macron doesn't rule out troops for Ukraine if Russia breaks front lines

Speaking to The Economist, the French president said it's necessary to have a 'strategic ambiguity' when dealing with Vladimir Putin.

www.lemonde.fr

in an interview with The Economist published Thursday, May 2. Macron in the interview doubled down on his comments from earlier this year

His latest comments come as some analysts believe that Russia could be on the verge of launching a major new offensive in Ukraine.

"I have a clear strategic objective: Russia cannot win in Ukraine," Macron said.

He suggested that Moscow's war machine was not sustainable over the long term. "Devoting a third of its budget to defense is not sustainable for a country whose gross domestic product is lower than that of France, Germany or the United Kingdom," he said.

Macron said Europe faced not just a military and security risk but also "an economic risk for our prosperity" and "an existential risk of internal incoherence and disruption to the functioning of our democracies." He added: "Things can fall apart very quickly."

 

[ZiprHead]

Today (May 2 2024) vis a 10 years anniversary of Odessa May 2 massacre, organized by ukro-nazi regime.

Wiki has a very balanced story on the event:

2014 Odesa clashes - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I assume Wiki is banned in Russia?

I was going to post that but I have no doubts that Barbos would consider it to be lies. He already blamed the government for the fire that killed the pro-Russians even though it wasn't.

 

[ZiprHead]

Today (May 2 2024) vis a 10 years anniversary of Odessa May 2 massacre, organized by ukro-nazi regime.

Wasn’t that when the out of control Nazi Russian dictator invaded Crimea?

Yup. February and March 2014 to be exact.

 

[ZiprHead]

Reports are that Russia is using banned chemical weapons in Ukraine now.

 

[Elixir]

Reports are that Russia is using banned chemical weapons in Ukraine now.

I wouldn’t doubt it. They’ve used virtually every other terror tactic available. Chemicals are cheap, and they’re running out of expensive stuff.

 

[TV and credit cards]

Macron doesn't rule out troops for Ukraine if Russia breaks front lines

Speaking to The Economist, the French president said it's necessary to have a 'strategic ambiguity' when dealing with Vladimir Putin.

www.lemonde.fr

in an interview with The Economist published Thursday, May 2. Macron in the interview doubled down on his comments from earlier this year

His latest comments come as some analysts believe that Russia could be on the verge of launching a major new offensive in Ukraine.

"I have a clear strategic objective: Russia cannot win in Ukraine," Macron said.

He suggested that Moscow's war machine was not sustainable over the long term. "Devoting a third of its budget to defense is not sustainable for a country whose gross domestic product is lower than that of France, Germany or the United Kingdom," he said.

Macron said Europe faced not just a military and security risk but also "an economic risk for our prosperity" and "an existential risk of internal incoherence and disruption to the functioning of our democracies." He added: "Things can fall apart very quickly."

Cameron said Ukraine had a right to use the weapons provided by London to strike targets inside Russia

"Ukraine has that right. Just as Russia is striking inside Ukraine, you can quite understand why Ukraine feels the need to make sure it's defending itself,"

I'm getting a sense of resolve.

 

[barbos]

Wiki has a very balanced story on the event:

No it does not. Main question is why there was no investigation is not answered.
Same story with the Nord Stream and Bucha.

 

[barbos]

Reports are that Russia is using banned chemical weapons in Ukraine now.

Sure, and In Syria too.
Also report says, Russia interfered in US elections and had a secret channel with Trump Tower server via Alfa-Bank.

 

[barbos]

I assume Wiki is banned in Russia?

I assume you believe everything Wiki says?
You do realize that they, by design, are simply repeaters what somebody said?
And we know for a fact that Western media lies 99% of the time.

 

[barbos]

First Batch of F-16s to Arrive in Ukraine After Easter
Oh, that Easter.
Whew!

final destination of your F-16s

 

[barbos]

Krasnodar versus Texas:

 

[barbos]

I was going to post that but I have no doubts that Barbos would consider it to be lies. He already blamed the government for the fire that killed the pro-Russians even though it wasn't.

So they all died from natural causes? All at once?

 

[barbos]

The Russian military is an incompetent paper tiger that's gotten its ass kicked by what,

Square this with "Russia will invade Western Europe if we allow them to win in Ukraine" rhetoric from euro-clowns.

So, still no takers? How predictable.

 

[barbos]

Macron doesn't rule out troops for Ukraine if Russia breaks front lines

Speaking to The Economist, the French president said it's necessary to have a 'strategic ambiguity' when dealing with Vladimir Putin.

www.lemonde.fr

in an interview with The Economist published Thursday, May 2. Macron in the interview doubled down on his comments from earlier this year

His latest comments come as some analysts believe that Russia could be on the verge of launching a major new offensive in Ukraine.

"I have a clear strategic objective: Russia cannot win in Ukraine," Macron said.

He suggested that Moscow's war machine was not sustainable over the long term. "Devoting a third of its budget to defense is not sustainable for a country whose gross domestic product is lower than that of France, Germany or the United Kingdom," he said.

Macron said Europe faced not just a military and security risk but also "an economic risk for our prosperity" and "an existential risk of internal incoherence and disruption to the functioning of our democracies." He added: "Things can fall apart very quickly."

Macron is a lame blowhard, nobody cares what he says anymore.

 

[Colonel Sanders]

Macron doesn't rule out troops for Ukraine if Russia breaks front lines

Speaking to The Economist, the French president said it's necessary to have a 'strategic ambiguity' when dealing with Vladimir Putin.

www.lemonde.fr

in an interview with The Economist published Thursday, May 2. Macron in the interview doubled down on his comments from earlier this year

His latest comments come as some analysts believe that Russia could be on the verge of launching a major new offensive in Ukraine.

"I have a clear strategic objective: Russia cannot win in Ukraine," Macron said.

He suggested that Moscow's war machine was not sustainable over the long term. "Devoting a third of its budget to defense is not sustainable for a country whose gross domestic product is lower than that of France, Germany or the United Kingdom," he said.

Macron said Europe faced not just a military and security risk but also "an economic risk for our prosperity" and "an existential risk of internal incoherence and disruption to the functioning of our democracies." He added: "Things can fall apart very quickly."

Macron is a lame blowhard, nobody cares what he says anymore.

It's a good bet that Billy Bartsky aka Putin, takes Macron seriously. Russia got its ass beat, and continues to get its ass beat by an army that was supposed to fall before it in a matter of weeks. Imagine what France could do to what remains of Herve' Villechaizov's ragged forces.

 

[ZiprHead]

I was going to post that but I have no doubts that Barbos would consider it to be lies. He already blamed the government for the fire that killed the pro-Russians even though it wasn't.

So they all died from natural causes? All at once?

C'mon. I know you're not that stupid. Stop acting like it and discuss issues in good faith, please.

 

[pood]

Here’s your hero, Barbos — a guy who initiated a pointless and barbaric war that has resulted in some 400,000 dead Russian soldiers, to say nothing of all the trauma and horror inflicted on innocent Ukrainians, and all — for what? To occupy in a stalemated war some Ukrainian territory in its eastern hinterlands. Just brilliant. And note the new symbol Z mentioned in the article that is appearing all over the place in Russia. Guess what Z is half of, Barbos — you who are constantly inveighing against imaginary Nazis in Ukraine? That Z is one half of … well, I guess you know.

I think you said you lived in Siberia. Tell me, are you being coerced into writing your vile garbage? I was happening to read a back thread here that appeared when Covid emerged, before I joined this board, and you seemed quite cogent and aware, and even critical of Russia. But now …

 

[Elixir]

I think you said you lived in Siberia. Tell me, are you being coerced into writing your vile garbage?

Well, if he lives in Siberia due past refusal to write vile garbage on pootey's behalf, would you expect him to say so?

 

[pood]

And we know for a fact that Western media lies 99% of the time.

“We” “know” that “for a fact,” do we?

Evidence for this alleged “fact”?

You do realize, don’t you, that unlike in your vile and repugnant country, Western media outlets are not government owned and controlled?