How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[Elixir]

And what justifies Nazi coup you conducted?
Russian involvement in Ukraine is justified million times over.

By your measure, America should invade and destroy Russia, kill and torture a bunch of Russians and take control of their mineral resources. That would be a just response for flooding our media with lies and sending operatives like Haley and Trump to turn the USA into a dictator-friendly oligarchy.
If the coup fails and Pootey is still alive when it dies, there will be a day of reckoning.

@barbos
Your guy lost the propaganda war in Ukraine. Without your own agent calling the USA’s shots, we were able to assist the independence-minded Ukranians to prevail despite Russia’s best efforts to keep its puppets in power. It was exactly the fair fight Pootey wanted to avoid.

 

[ZiprHead]

It just took 4 weeks of Trump for the US to devolve into a weak, pathetic laughingstock attached to Putin's arse human centipede style.

Trump certainly is acting like Putin's tool. Russian asset or or not, Trump acts like one. You know what they say about things that walk like a duck and talk like a duck.

As opposed to Biden who walked and quacked like a senile Hitler.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

It's really simple. J.D. Vance and Trump are not connected to this failing project. Moreover, they hate Elensky for his meddling in US elections on the side of democrats. RussiaGate the same story.
The Project is failing, short of nuclear war there is no chance in hell to defeat Russia.
Now, about EU scum. They are all up to their ears in this shit project called "Let's destroy Russia"
I think they are at the stage where their heist went badly wrong and they are covering it up by doubling down and hoping miracle will suddenly happen. Soon I think they will start killing witnesses.


The truth is, the last months of Biden rule they were making sure their project does not fail on their watch. They knew it was over, they just did not want to be blamed and blame Trump instead.

You have a very unrealistic picture of the situation.

One big Tomahawk strike and we could cause Russia to collapse--things like refineries don't move and are big enough we know where they all are and thus could take them all out in one launch. The question would be whether any of your bombs work.

 

[barbos]

It's really simple. J.D. Vance and Trump are not connected to this failing project. Moreover, they hate Elensky for his meddling in US elections on the side of democrats. RussiaGate the same story.
The Project is failing, short of nuclear war there is no chance in hell to defeat Russia.
Now, about EU scum. They are all up to their ears in this shit project called "Let's destroy Russia"
I think they are at the stage where their heist went badly wrong and they are covering it up by doubling down and hoping miracle will suddenly happen. Soon I think they will start killing witnesses.


The truth is, the last months of Biden rule they were making sure their project does not fail on their watch. They knew it was over, they just did not want to be blamed and blame Trump instead.

You have a very unrealistic picture of the situation.

One big Tomahawk strike and we could cause Russia to collapse--things like refineries don't move and are big enough we know where they all are and thus could take them all out in one launch. The question would be whether any of your bombs work.

Keep your day job, comedy is not your thing.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Zelenskyy: We tried diplomacy after Crimea and Russia violated that agreement.

Elensky lied.

You are lying to yourself.

3 years after a disastrous invasion Russians are still being killed, crippled, and suffering in the war. For nothing.

It's not for nothing. Putin has to win or more pieces will realize they can rebel.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

If the US suspends aid to the Ukraine, the US ROE no longer applies. Every drone strike should be on Moscow.

The drones are local-built and do not have a target restriction. It's only the US-supplied weapons they are not allowed to fire into Russia.

And the long range ones are simply general aviation aircraft refitted as robo-kamikazes. Hundreds of pounds of boom, they hit point targets, not a city. Besides, a city is mostly things it won't help to hit them. I think they sent a few into Moscow as a psychological operation--get the bigwigs to panic and pull air defenses from where they're actually useful to defend Moscow. Rather like the Doolittle raid.

They should take a page from Tom Clancy. Specifically, Red Storm Rising--the war ends when the allies retake two bridgeheads, cutting off the invasion force. No fuel = no combat capability. Clearly they can't actually do exactly that but they've been targeting oil. The west has wanted them to go light on that because of what it could do to oil prices, but if The Felon throws away the carrot why would they not hit anything oil or gas that they could reach? Take out too much oil and Russia has big, big problems--problems that could be eased by not using so much on their war.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

If the US suspends aid to the Ukraine, the US ROE no longer applies. Every drone strike should be on Moscow.

As if anything was stopping nazi Kiev regime before.

I expect the British and the French to have boots on the ground there very soon.

What for?

To kick your sorry ass. What else? with 20K troops?

Sorry you need way way way more than that to even enter Russia, let alone march to Siberia. My ass is quite safe.

My, you're being unimaginitive. Why do you assume they would start in the west? I see two countries that aren't exactly friendly to Russia from which 20k properly equipped troops should have no problem reaching you before the Russian defenses can reposition.

 

[barbos]

If the US suspends aid to the Ukraine, the US ROE no longer applies. Every drone strike should be on Moscow.

As if anything was stopping nazi Kiev regime before.

I expect the British and the French to have boots on the ground there very soon.

What for?

To kick your sorry ass. What else? with 20K troops?

Sorry you need way way way more than that to even enter Russia, let alone march to Siberia. My ass is quite safe.

My, you're being unimaginitive. Why do you assume they would start in the west? I see two countries that aren't exactly friendly to Russia from which 20k properly equipped troops should have no problem reaching you before the Russian defenses can reposition.

OK. I give up. what's your plan of invasion into Central Siberia?
Kazakhstan, Mongolia and more importantly China are quite friendly to Russia and I doubt Russia would miss 20K french troops having coffee with croissants there.

 

[TV and credit cards]

If the US suspends aid to the Ukraine, the US ROE no longer applies. Every drone strike should be on Moscow.

As if anything was stopping nazi Kiev regime before.

I expect the British and the French to have boots on the ground there very soon.

What for?

To kick your sorry ass. What else? with 20K troops?

Sorry you need way way way more than that to even enter Russia, let alone march to Siberia. My ass is quite safe.

My, you're being unimaginitive. Why do you assume they would start in the west? I see two countries that aren't exactly friendly to Russia from which 20k properly equipped troops should have no problem reaching you before the Russian defenses can reposition.

OK. I give up. what's your plan of invasion into Central Siberia?

Walk down the streets while the people cheer.

 

[barbos]

Walk down the streets while the people cheer.

Been there, done that. Not gonna work this time.
We are not easily fooled, unlike ukrainians.

 

[barbos]

British dumbass in Kursk.
Lost his job in not so Great Britain and decided to earn some money invading Russia.
So now he will be building high speed Russia-China Rail in Siberia:
For the next 19 years.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Barbos lives in USA.

No, he doesn't.

He's not the Russian version.

Yes, he is.

How do you know? And what difference does it make? A pile of shit in either country smells the same similar.

ZiprHead is right. And just because you don't know how we know doesn't mean we don't.

 

[barbos]

ZiprHead is right. And just because you don't know how we know doesn't mean we don't.

No, he does not, I explained earlier. I could be living anywhere.

 

[barbos]

Ukro-nazi escape from Russia, apparently these ones managed to get away from drones.
Or the second thought, it was published by our side and included footage from the drone.
The last FPV probably got them...... and they lost one wheel shortly before the end.
Does not look like it had a happy ending.

 

[ZiprHead]

^^^ Wow! That's the best you've got? A Russian drone that can't even take out a civilian pickup truck?

Here's the effectiveness of the Ukraine drones.:

Spoiler: Graphic War Footage

 

[barbos]

^^^ Wow! That's the best you've got? A Russian drone that can't even take out a civilian pickup truck?

Here's the effectiveness of the Ukraine drones.:

Spoiler: Graphic War Footage

How dumb and uninformed one has to be to say that?
FPV drones even without electronic warfare are far from 100%.
In this particular case ukro-nazi clearly are using electronic warfare devices (very close miss is evidence of that)
In the end they were hit and destroyed, it seems. It probably took 3-4 FPVs to do that which is better than average.

Ukro-nazi propaganda on the other hand shows only successes, you are victim of that.

Yes, and look at destroyed vehicles on the road. These are all ukro-nazi shit destroyed by drones.
Ukro-nazi scam runs away from Russia, runs over bodies of their comrades 3:30, loses a wheel (4:30) and apparently get destroyed in the end.

 

[ZiprHead]

^^^ Wow! That's the best you've got? A Russian drone that can't even take out a civilian pickup truck?

Here's the effectiveness of the Ukraine drones.:

Spoiler: Graphic War Footage

How dumb and uninformed one has to be to say that?
FPV drones even without electronic warfare are far from 100%.

Clearly demonstrated by your video that couldn't even take out a compact civilian pickup truck.

In this particular case ukro-nazi clearly are using electronic warfare devices (very close miss is evidence of that)
In the end they were hit and destroyed, it seems. It probably took 3-4 FPVs to do that which is better than average.

Ukro-nazi propaganda on the other hand shows only successes, you are victim of that.

Yes, and look at destroyed vehicles on the road. These are all ukro-nazi shit destroyed by drones,

I assumed this was the best of the Russian forces on offence. Frankly, It was a pitiful display of Russian incompetence and inferior weaponry.

How do you know they were ultimately taken out? Ukraine drones do the job one and done.

 

[barbos]

Clearly demonstrated by your video that couldn't even take out a compact civilian pickup truck.

First, they took it out eventually. And by the look of it they did very well in that miss, considering that they loss the signal due to ukro-nazi jammer.

I posted way back a video of ukro-nazi scam spending 10 (!!!!!) FPV on one russian soldier who got away in the end.
No jammer were used. They just missed 10 times. Go and put your stupid comments about that.

 

[barbos]

How do you know they were ultimately taken out?

I explained how, video was taken from their body cams by russian soldiers, combined with our videos and published by our guys. These nazi fuckers are either dead or were captured.

Ukraine drones do the job one and done.

And this is why they had to run away from Sudzha.

 

[laughing dog]

Walk down the streets while the people cheer.

Been there, done that. Not gonna work this time.
We are not easily fooled, unlike ukrainians.

Your posts in this thread are strong evidence to the contrary.