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How should west respond to Russian invasion of Ukraine?

 
 
 
I didn't think barbos would stoop to using a multiple child sex offender to back up his bullshit claims, but hey. Wonders never cease.

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Scott Ritter - Wikipedia

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Ritter was the subject of two law enforcement sting operations in 2001. He was charged in June 2001 with trying to set up a meeting with an undercover police officer posing as a 16-year-old girl.

Ritter was arrested again in November 2009 over communications with a police decoy he met on an Internet chat site. Police said that he exposed himself, via a web camera, after the officer repeatedly identified himself as a 15-year-old girl. The next month, Ritter waived his right to a preliminary hearing and was released on $25,000 unsecured bail. Charges included "unlawful contact with a minor, criminal use of a communications facility, corruption of minors, indecent exposure, possessing instruments of crime, criminal attempt and criminal solicitation". Ritter rejected a plea bargain and was found guilty of all but the criminal attempt count in county court in Rochester, New York on April 14, 2011. In October 2011, he was sentenced to one and a half to five and a half years in prison
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The wiki article leaves out the child porn that was discovered on his computer during his 2009 trial.
 
barbos said:
Minsk 1,2,3,
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Uh huh. :rolleyes:

After extensive talks in Minsk, Belarus, the agreement was signed on 5 September 2014 by representatives of the Trilateral Contact Group and, without recognition of their status, by the then-leaders of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) and Luhansk People's Republic (LPR). This agreement followed multiple previous attempts to stop the fighting in the region and aimed to implement an immediate ceasefire.

The agreement failed to stop fighting. At the start of January 2015, Russia sent another large batch of its regular military. Following the Russian victory at Donetsk International Airport in defiance of the Protocol, Russia repeated its pattern of August 2014, invaded with fresh forces and attacked Ukrainian forces at Debaltseve, where Ukraine suffered a major defeat, and was forced to sign a Package of Measures for the Implementation of the Minsk Agreements, or Minsk II, which was signed on 12 February 2015. This agreement consisted of a package of measures, including a ceasefire, withdrawal of heavy weapons from the front line, release of prisoners of war, constitutional reform in Ukraine granting self-government to certain areas of Donbas and restoring control of the state border to the Ukrainian government. While fighting subsided following the agreement's signing, it never ended completely, and the agreement's provisions were never fully implemented. The former German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier suggested a mechanism of granting an autonomy to Eastern Donbas only after "the OSCE certified that the local elections had followed international standards", called the Steinmeier formula.

 Minsk agreements

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There was never a formal agreement prohibiting NATO expansion eastward.

missile defence agreements
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The US removed itself from the 1972 START treaty under Bush in 2002 and it was replaced with the SORT treaty.

Russia suspended itself from START II and New START in 2023 after Russia started the full scale war on Ukraine. New START expired in February of this year.

So you got one US withdrawal that was immediately replaced with another treaty.

So again you are using ass-facts.
 
In northern Ukraine, it was boy vs. Russian drone. The boy won.
CHERNIHIV, Ukraine — On a cool evening last month, 12-year-old Anatolii Prokhorenko was up in a pear tree, cutting off a damaged branch for a neighbor, when he heard the buzz of a drone.


That sound often means death in Ukraine, and not just for soldiers on the front lines. Increasingly, civilians are tracked, chased and attacked by small, commercially available drones equipped with cameras, rigged with explosives and steered by fingers-on-joysticks a dozen miles away.

Ukrainians, darkly, have dubbed this Xbox-inflected hunting of civilians as Russia’s “human safari” — a terror campaign that started in the once-occupied southern city of Kherson. In recent months, it has evolved with new technology and spread to border areas around the country.

Anatolii knew it had recently reached the small farming village where he and his family live in Ukraine’s northern Chernihiv region, seven miles from the Russian border. Tractors, like the one his father frequently drove, had been hit in the fields. In March, a drone blew up a car next to a shop. Another had exploded on Anatolii’s street just the day before.
Now, the one he spotted was heading right for his house.
As he clung to the tree trunk, the black quadcopter buzzed past, flying just off the ground and bearing down on a cluster of buildings where three of his younger siblings were playing with other kids in their yard.
He watched as unseen eyes seemed to zero in on the structures and the drone began to climb, apparently rearing to strike.
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Which is why when Anatolii heard the buzz from his tree, he looked up and saw nothing. It was below him, just a few feet above the ground.
And he saw something else, glinting in the low evening sun: the very fine fiber-optic contrail behind it.
As the drone moved toward his family, Anatolii dropped to the ground. He ran 20 yards and got his fingers around a hairlike umbilical running all the way to Russia. He made a loop, pulled it slightly, and remembered the soldier’s instruction: Count to 15.

“I didn’t have time,” he said. “So I counted to 10 and I broke it.”
The line snapped. The drone abruptly veered upward, banked away from the children and the houses, and spiraled into a section of wild ground next to the neighborhood.
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The drone hunts started two years ago in Kherson, when Russians just across the Dnieper River began deploying cheap commercial first-person view (FPV) quadcopters to stalk and strike civilians going about their days — biking to work, waiting at bus stops, walking their dogs.
A drone dropped an explosive on a man riding a moped in November 2024, and then dropped another on the ambulance that came to help him.
By April 2025, the attacks were killing 42 civilians a month and injuring nearly 300, according to report by an independent U.N. human rights commission.

Investigators determined that the campaign was ordered by Moscow to systematically terrorize the populace and amounted to “murder as a crime against humanity.”
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Fiber-optic drones more expensive than radio-link ones. But they provide high resolution jam-free picture for hunting military targets on the battlefield.
Only deranged idiot would believe they make good tool for terrorizing civilians. Russia can terrorize civilians less expensively just fine. But we don't terrorize civilians, ukrainian army does.
 
Yeah, Russia hasn't launched thousands of drones and missiles on the Ukrainian civilian population just over the last couple of months.

Here's more Western propaganda, this from ABC news. They're all in on it, ABC, NBC, the other ABC, Reuters, AP, CNN, and on and on. They're all out to get Russia because Russia is so damn important.
abcnews.com

Russia sets new record for drone, missile attacks on Ukraine in April

Ukraine's air force said it faced 6,663 drones and 141 missiles during April.
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Case in point - this Latvian Government collapse is because Ukrainian drones fall.
Western Media makes it look like they came from Russian territory. That may or may not be true. But MSM failed to mention that Ukrainian drones flew over Latvian airspace to reach Russia. This is disgusting.
 
barbos said:
TV and credit cards said:
Yeah, Russia hasn't launched thousands of drones and missiles on the Ukrainian civilian population just over the last couple of months.
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No, we have not. Unlike US in Iran with their unprovoked agression against people of Iran, Russia strikes exclusively military targets.
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Yes we know.
This kindergarten was probably where Zelenskky hides all those drones that are hitting Russian military targets.
 
barbos said:
ZiprHead said:
barbos said:
TV and credit cards said:
Yeah, Russia hasn't launched thousands of drones and missiles on the Ukrainian civilian population just over the last couple of months.
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No, we have not. Unlike US in Iran with their unprovoked agression against people of Iran, Russia strikes exclusively military targets.
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Yes, we conduct the war according to international rules and you are not.
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Is Russia's invasion of Ukraine in accordance with international law? Yes or no?
 
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