How should west respond to Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[Tammuz]

Dose of Reality for the usual suspects here:

According to the video description:

The Ukrainian cause is nihilistic, self-destructive, and ultimately only serves foreign powers.

Uhh, that sounds like the Russian cause actually.

Also, why are you not in the meatgrinder at the front, fighting for Russia's conquest of Ukraine? Why do you sit back? You are Russian, right?

 

[barbos]

Dose of Reality for the usual suspects here:

According to the video description:

The Ukrainian cause is nihilistic, self-destructive, and ultimately only serves foreign powers.

Uhh, that sounds like the Russian cause actually.

You are not making any sense.

Also, why are you not in the meatgrinder at the front, fighting for Russia's conquest of Ukraine? Why do you sit back? You are Russian, right?

Same question to you.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Dose of Reality for the usual suspects here:

According to the video description:

The Ukrainian cause is nihilistic, self-destructive, and ultimately only serves foreign powers.

Uhh, that sounds like the Russian cause actually.

You are not making any sense.

Also, why are you not in the meatgrinder at the front, fighting for Russia's conquest of Ukraine? Why do you sit back? You are Russian, right?

Same question to you.

He's not Ukranian! You are Russian. Your country has invaded Ukraine. You are very pro-war. You've stated many many times you want Russia to take all of Ukraine. Why aren't you fighting? I think that it's shameful that a person would be so pro-war but not willing to serve. You think that it's okay that the young people in your country can serve and kill the young people in Ukraine (and civilians)? That's okay with you? I've never supported a war that my country gets involved with unless it's a war that I'd be willing to either serve in or send my children to serve.

 

[barbos]

He's not Ukranian! You are Russian. Your country has invaded Ukraine.

Full stop. Your country invaded Ukraine We are trying to liberate them.

 

[Tammuz]

He's not Ukranian! You are Russian. Your country has invaded Ukraine.

Full stop. Your country invaded Ukraine We are trying to liberate them.

Someone is living in an alternative universe.

Do you get the vibe that the Ukrainians are appreciative of your efforts to "liberate" them? How did the "liberation" of Bucha work out?

 

[barbos]

He's not Ukranian! You are Russian. Your country has invaded Ukraine.

Full stop. Your country invaded Ukraine We are trying to liberate them.

Someone is living in an alternative universe.

And it is you.

Do you get the vibe that the Ukrainians are appreciative of your efforts to "liberate" them? How did the "liberation" of Bucha work out?

If I were you I would be doing the same thing Regime in Kiev is doing - trying not to mention Bucha.

 

[Harry Bosch]

He's not Ukranian! You are Russian. Your country has invaded Ukraine.

Full stop. Your country invaded Ukraine We are trying to liberate them.

Someone is living in an alternative universe.

Do you get the vibe that the Ukrainians are appreciative of your efforts to "liberate" them? How did the "liberation" of Bucha work out?

I think that Russians have a very difficult time grasping that Ukraine, their little brother, was able to legally overthrow their former Russian puppet President; and then stand up to Russia over all these years. So, they invent this fantasy that it must be Americans and Nato that is doing all this fighting. It can't be the Ukrainians!

 

[TV and credit cards]

He's not Ukranian! You are Russian. Your country has invaded Ukraine.

Full stop. Your country invaded Ukraine We are trying to liberate them.

Someone is living in an alternative universe.

Do you get the vibe that the Ukrainians are appreciative of your efforts to "liberate" them? How did the "liberation" of Bucha work out?

I think that Russians have a very difficult time grasping that Ukraine, their little brother, was able to legally overthrow their former Russian puppet President; and then stand up to Russia over all these years. So, they invent this fantasy that it must be Americans and Nato that is doing all this fighting. It can't be the Ukrainians!

"They"? I think something is leaching into barbos' drinking water.
Like vodka.

 

[barbos]

Why aren't you fighting?

I am busy preparing invasion into EU, specifically France. I am going to be Mayor of Paris, once it is occupied by the Red Army.

 

[barbos]

He's not Ukranian! You are Russian. Your country has invaded Ukraine.

Full stop. Your country invaded Ukraine We are trying to liberate them.

Someone is living in an alternative universe.

Do you get the vibe that the Ukrainians are appreciative of your efforts to "liberate" them? How did the "liberation" of Bucha work out?

I think that Russians have a very difficult time grasping that Ukraine, their little brother, was able to legally overthrow their former Russian puppet President; and then stand up to Russia over all these years. So, they invent this fantasy that it must be Americans and Nato that is doing all this fighting. It can't be the Ukrainians!

I think that americans have a very difficult time grasping that Latin America, their little brother, was able to legally overthrow their puppets.

 

[bilby]

Is this hypocricy on a grand scale; A delusional lack of self-awareness; Or both?

Statement by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation regarding the armed aggression by the United States against Venezuela

This morning, the US committed an act of armed aggression against Venezuela. This development gives rise to deep concern and warrants condemnation.

The pretexts used to justify these actions are untenable. Ideologized animosity has prevailed over pragmatic engagement, as well as over any readiness to build relations based on trust and predictability.

In the current situation, it is essential above all to prevent further escalation and to focus on finding a solution through dialogue. We proceed from the understanding that all parties that may have grievances against one another must seek solutions through dialogue-based mechanisms. We stand ready to support such efforts.

Latin America must remain a zone of peace, as it proclaimed itself in 2014. Venezuela must be guaranteed the right to determine its own destiny, free from any destructive – let alone military – external interference.

We reaffirm our solidarity with the Venezuelan people and our support for the course pursued by its Bolivarian leadership, aimed at safeguarding the country’s national interests and sovereignty.

We support the statements by the Venezuelan authorities and by the leaders of Latin American countries calling for the urgent convening of a meeting of the UN Security Council.

 

[barbos]

Is this hypocricy on a grand scale; A delusional lack of self-awareness; Or both?

Let's see. US invaded and overthrew dully elected presidents of both Ukraine and Venezuela.
I think it's both on your part.

 

[bilby]

Is this hypocricy on a grand scale; A delusional lack of self-awareness; Or both?

Let's see. US invaded and overthrew dully elected presidents of both Ukraine and Venezuela.
I think it's both on your part.

So that's one vote for "delusional lack of self-awareness" then.

Anyone else?

 

[TV and credit cards]

Is this hypocricy on a grand scale; A delusional lack of self-awareness; Or both?

Statement by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation regarding the armed aggression by the United States against Venezuela

This morning, the US committed an act of armed aggression against Venezuela. This development gives rise to deep concern and warrants condemnation.

The pretexts used to justify these actions are untenable. Ideologized animosity has prevailed over pragmatic engagement, as well as over any readiness to build relations based on trust and predictability.

In the current situation, it is essential above all to prevent further escalation and to focus on finding a solution through dialogue. We proceed from the understanding that all parties that may have grievances against one another must seek solutions through dialogue-based mechanisms. We stand ready to support such efforts.

Latin America must remain a zone of peace, as it proclaimed itself in 2014. Venezuela must be guaranteed the right to determine its own destiny, free from any destructive – let alone military – external interference.

We reaffirm our solidarity with the Venezuelan people and our support for the course pursued by its Bolivarian leadership, aimed at safeguarding the country’s national interests and sovereignty.

We support the statements by the Venezuelan authorities and by the leaders of Latin American countries calling for the urgent convening of a meeting of the UN Security Council.

This statement by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs overall is every bit as clownish as those by their local cheerleader.
"prevent further escalation and to focus on finding a solution through dialogue."
Give me a fucking break. You've been accused of and an arrest warrant has been issued for committing war crimes and crimes against humanity. Ukraine is fully within their rights to go after Putin personally.

 

[barbos]

Give me a fucking break. You've been accused of and an arrest warrant has been issued for committing war crimes and crimes

By who? by the same rapists who just invaded Venezuela to get their oil?
By the way, Russia issued arrest warrant for that motherfucker who issued that arrest warrant. So take that.

Karim Ahmad Khan - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So the guy is a rapist, sentenced to 15 years in Russia and sanctioned by US

 

[Harry Bosch]

Is this hypocricy on a grand scale; A delusional lack of self-awareness; Or both?

Statement by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation regarding the armed aggression by the United States against Venezuela

This morning, the US committed an act of armed aggression against Venezuela. This development gives rise to deep concern and warrants condemnation.

The pretexts used to justify these actions are untenable. Ideologized animosity has prevailed over pragmatic engagement, as well as over any readiness to build relations based on trust and predictability.

In the current situation, it is essential above all to prevent further escalation and to focus on finding a solution through dialogue. We proceed from the understanding that all parties that may have grievances against one another must seek solutions through dialogue-based mechanisms. We stand ready to support such efforts.

Latin America must remain a zone of peace, as it proclaimed itself in 2014. Venezuela must be guaranteed the right to determine its own destiny, free from any destructive – let alone military – external interference.

We reaffirm our solidarity with the Venezuelan people and our support for the course pursued by its Bolivarian leadership, aimed at safeguarding the country’s national interests and sovereignty.

We support the statements by the Venezuelan authorities and by the leaders of Latin American countries calling for the urgent convening of a meeting of the UN Security Council.

Incredible hypocrisy! However, might also be more than that. It might really hurt Russian war efforts:

MSN

Russians fear that oil prices could collapse and hurt their war economy. I'm against imperialism by any country. Russia violated international law when invading Ukraine; so did the US in Venezuela. But hurting Russian economy is one side benefit. And any harm to Russian economy is their own fault. They spend way too much on arms and have declared war and future war on their number one most profitable consumers! If they called off their war, and return to following international law, their profit margins would double over night.

 

[barbos]

Is this hypocricy on a grand scale; A delusional lack of self-awareness; Or both?

Statement by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation regarding the armed aggression by the United States against Venezuela

This morning, the US committed an act of armed aggression against Venezuela. This development gives rise to deep concern and warrants condemnation.

The pretexts used to justify these actions are untenable. Ideologized animosity has prevailed over pragmatic engagement, as well as over any readiness to build relations based on trust and predictability.

In the current situation, it is essential above all to prevent further escalation and to focus on finding a solution through dialogue. We proceed from the understanding that all parties that may have grievances against one another must seek solutions through dialogue-based mechanisms. We stand ready to support such efforts.

Latin America must remain a zone of peace, as it proclaimed itself in 2014. Venezuela must be guaranteed the right to determine its own destiny, free from any destructive – let alone military – external interference.

We reaffirm our solidarity with the Venezuelan people and our support for the course pursued by its Bolivarian leadership, aimed at safeguarding the country’s national interests and sovereignty.

We support the statements by the Venezuelan authorities and by the leaders of Latin American countries calling for the urgent convening of a meeting of the UN Security Council.

Incredible hypocrisy! However, might also be more than that. It might really hurt Russian war efforts:

MSN

Russians fear that oil prices could collapse and hurt their war economy. I'm against imperialism by any country. Russia violated international law when invading Ukraine; so did the US in Venezuela. But hurting Russian economy is one side benefit. And any harm to Russian economy is their own fault. They spend way too much on arms and have declared war and future war on their number one most profitable consumers! If they called off their war, and return to following international law, their profit margins would double over night.

You keep repeating neocon BS. Why?
You are not convincing anybody who matters - people in Russia. If anything you strengthen their opinion that Ukrainian State must be finished.

 

[TV and credit cards]

Finnish children learn media literacy at 3 years old. It’s protection so they don't end up like our local poster child for disinformation.

“I don’t think we envisioned that the world would look like this,” Finnish Education Minister Anders Adlercreutz said. “That we would be bombarded with disinformation, that our institutions are challenged — our democracy really challenged — through disinformation.”

Russian response: "Hey, Ya gotta be good at something."

 

[zorq]

You keep repeating neocon BS. Why?
You are not convincing anybody who matters - people in Russia. If anything you strengthen their opinion that Ukrainian State must be finished.

You are a fool to think the opinions of Russians are all that matters or that any of the posts in this thread are for your benefit anymore.

But there is one more stupid thing about this post Barbos.

Neo conservatives believe in aggressive foreign policy and military interventions to promote their national interests.

That's you! You hate Neo-conservatives, but YOU are a neo-conservative. So enjoy just a little bit more hypocrisy in your soup of delusion and paranoia.

 

[barbos]

Finnish children learn media literacy at 3 years old. It’s protection so they don't end up like our local poster child for disinformation.

Translation: "Finland is going to brainwash 3-year olds."
And the whole news looks like BS disinformation itself. 3-olds are too young for that.
Hell, I was not even speaking at that age.