I have a solution to the black children who do not have fathers

[phands]

It is just an idea.

It's a fucking disgusting, racist, inhuman and foul idea.

 

[southernhybrid]

Instead of making silly arguments about fatherless black families, why not discuss poverty? Decades ago, it was much easier for young black men to find decent paying jobs, even without a college education. All of the older black women that I am friends with, are or were married. They raised children as couples. So what has changed? When I worked as a home health nurse, most of my older black patients were or had been married. We live in different times. What has changed?

The global trade agreements coupled with the nanny welfare state. First the globalists shipped all the high paying low skill manufacturing jobs to China. And then the government stepped in with welfare money to replace those fathers who used to support their families. Those fathers had no role in society any more, so ended up in trouble. Either in jail or dead.

That is what has changed.

I would agree that a lot of manufacturing jobs have moved over seas, making it more difficult to find high paying jobs, but automation is also a reason why there are fewer jobs and this is expected to be more common in the future. Welfare as we once knew it has been dead since the Clinton administration. Temporary Aide to Families with Dependent Children, is extremely limited and the amount of money is not nearly enough to support an individual, never mind a family. SNAP provides most help to the working poor, the elderly, and the disabled. Subsidized housing allows the poor to find affordable housing, especially in cities that lack affordable housing. I consider these programs to be mostly welfare for businesses, because if employers paid their employees a living wage, they wound't need help from these safety net programs, would they? If you don't work and you're not disabled, it's almost impossible to receive "welfare" benefits, so perhaps you haven't kept up with the latest limits of our safety net.

But, as I said earlier, this isn't about race, it's about poverty. That's the issue that I'm not sure you understood since your OP insinuated that this problem was because of black males, when in fact, it's about poverty. Plus, drug addiction has been a huge problem in the past few decades and this affects rural whites, as well as urban blacks. In the past few years, it seems like it's more of a problem for rural whites. One of my white friends is married to a horrible man who is addicted to meth among other things. He's verbally abusive to her, and she worries that he might become violent. She is too afraid of him to kick him out, and she is the sole supporter of her family. That's the only reason he stays in her home. She would be much better off if it was just her and her son. The father is a horrible influence, so sometimes it's better not to have a father in the home at all.

 

[untermensche]

There are many smart white people.

There are many smart black people.

US slums have NOTHING to do with intelligence.

And young black men in prison has nothing to do with intelligence.

Centuries of slavery then decades of legal segregation and an insane drug war instigated by racists are the problems.

The actions of racists are the problem.

Racists are the problem.

Those that live easy with their racism are the problem.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Marriage is a poor proxy for either the number, or the quality, of parents in a family in the twenty first century.

Although I can understand why someone raised in the insanely religion dominated environment of the USA might not recognise that fact.

About half of the couples I know who have children and raise them together are not married; There doesn't appear to be much difference in the likelihood of separating between the married and unmarried ones.

Staying in a relationship solely because a divorce would be complicated and/or expensive is not a recipe for a happy family; If that's the only reason a child's parents are staying together, the child is probably better off if they do separate.

It's not a matter of whether they have a marriage license. It's a matter of whether they have two parents. The real problem is single parenthood, not marriage licenses.

No, it isn't. Single parents can be just as good as the best couples, and couples can be up to twice as bad as the worst single parents.

Stop blindly parroting religious propaganda.

There are no definitively better or worse family structures. What matters is the amount of love and care, not the number, gender, or legal relationship status of the parent(s) or guardian(s).

Number of parents is a woefully bad proxy for the important things about families.

Just because religion says 2 parents doesn't mean it isn't a big help.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

It is just an idea.

It's a fucking disgusting, racist, inhuman and foul idea.

Here's another: Feed the homeless to the hungry. Solve two problems at once.

 

[Trausti]

It is just an idea.

It'll never work!

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Number of parents is a woefully bad proxy for the important things about families.

How about "whether there is a full time dedicated care giver"? That caregiver could be a housewife, househusband, grandparent, older sibling, long term hired nanny, etc. I think the idea Loren was looking towards was that against latchkey kids who lack parental guidance.

I don't think kids need a full time dedicated caregiver. The issue is parental guidance, however--with one parent it's very hard for them to really spend enough time with their kids.

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Ok, so lets consider this for a second. Done.

Even if this were realistic logistically, I don't see Chinese and clamoring for interracial relationships... they tend to be pretty racist.

they tend to be pretty racist.

That's pretty racist.

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Doesn't mean it isn't true. There's a lot of racism over there, even just between different groups of Chinese.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I did not say that. It is what others (including the people in the youtube) have said. I personally believe they are right but I don't know everything either. But the reason I think they are right is that the data shows us they are right. The colleges entrance exams show that scores of Chinese are above blacks consistently. Whites are somewhere in between.

But does that actually reflect intelligence, though? I don't think so--rather, I think it reflects culture. The Chinese are very focused on education.

Well for one thing, a Chinese VISA costs $300 or more. That is insanely expensive IMO. And just offer more visibility to the possibilities that could be, taking advantage of the shortages and opportunities without going into a full blown phands panic mode.

It's still $140, same as it has been for several years. If you don't live near a consulate then the visa agency & shipping will take it up to near $300. And unless you can travel on airline passes it's a lot cheaper than getting there. And note that that is a tit-for-tat price.

 

[RVonse]

I did not say that. It is what others (including the people in the youtube) have said. I personally believe they are right but I don't know everything either. But the reason I think they are right is that the data shows us they are right. The colleges entrance exams show that scores of Chinese are above blacks consistently. Whites are somewhere in between.

But does that actually reflect intelligence, though? I don't think so--rather, I think it reflects culture. The Chinese are very focused on education.

It takes actual intelligence to reject a destructive culture. Intelligence. The ability to get through the rat maze to end up with the final reward at the end of it all. If you see your peers getting shot and/or going to jail, the intelligent person will know that that is the wrong path to the cheese. The intelligent person will reject that culture of life and choose a better one. The intelligent person will survive and reproduce.

 

[RVonse]

Here's another: Feed the homeless to the hungry. Solve two problems at once.

But that only benefits one of the parties (hungry). The OP idea benefits everyone;

1. The single Chinese male is better off than he would be because he no longer will be single the rest of his life. He will be able to start a family and leave a legacy.

2. The black female is better off than she would be because she will have a husband who will both care for and protect her and her offspring. She will be married to someone who has the skills, ability to achieve family success.

3. Their offspring will be better off because they will grow up in a 2 parent environment with the resources to become successful later in life.

 

[RVonse]

It is just an idea.

It'll never work!

You are right.

The idea will never work if the asian men can not get horny with black women. Without them desiring the women, the idea is DOA with a -20% and -13% (almost as bad) going the other way. Thanks for sharing this data Trausti.

 

[Mumbles]

First, as always, misdiagnosis - the problem isn't that the out-of-wedlock birthrate is skyrocketing - it's that the married birthrate is plummeting (and this is true of all races, and seems to be planet-wide). Kids are vastly expensive to raise - consider changing this (THis would also be a good anti-abortion move, conservatives - older black women get abortions primarily because they can't afford children).

Second- end the damn drug war. Black men with *no* record face widespread hiring discrimination as is, black men with a criminal record are nearly unemployable - and "banning the box" leads many employers to assume that black men are all criminals.

Third, do something serious about racism.

Fourth...how accurate are those older statistics, anyway?