Idiot puts Gorilla Glue in her hair and now wants to sue the company

[Gospel]

Understood.

Hmmmmm

That's like one of the first things I think everyone knows without having to provide evidence.

knows, yes. I was asking why she does that.

I think we need to define our terms. There is a misunderstanding somewhere. What do you mean by "that" when you ask "why she does that"?

What I mean by "That's" followed by "one of the first things I think everyone knows", "that's" means her being a person at the end of the day. I presume everyone on this forum is aware she is a person until they make it obvious they aren't. So I automagically (not a typo) presume that even the worst of the worst (like the OP) acknowledges the subject is a person and isn't celebrating over her pains.

For example, when agreeing with Derec that's she is an idiot (while ignoring his unwarranted comment about her lashes because we make similar comments in my black circle with humorous intent), I'm presuming he's not ignoring that she is a person but only making public how he feels about the situation in relation to her considering a suit.

OMG YOU MADE ME WORK HARD. I don't mind trying to explain myself but I am way more effective in person than I am in writing. GOOD LAWD

 

[Trausti]

Maybe not McDonalds but the fear and lessons learned for everyone else is there. The small aircraft industry has been decimated by lawsuits, cessna and piper were both destroyed by suits they could not pay. I happen to work in the steel industry which is a very dangerous industry and has always been very dangerous. People get hurt and die all the time but the the trade off is high paying jobs. The corporation I work has to do so many mandatory safety briefings which are nothing more than an expense for the company and pain in the butt for the rest of us. The corporations legal policy is that all accidents can be prevented but the truth of the matter is that freak stuff can and does happen and it would not make any difference. Some jobs simply can not be done by wearing the protections for those tasks to be perfectly safe. But the corporation requires all the safety training and/or bureaucracy in order to protect their legal backsides.

Repeat this process throughout all industry and it becomes cheaper to just move out.

To be clear. I'm not saying corporations should not pay close attention to safe work practices and the general well being of its workforce. But the pendulum has swung so far towards run away lawsuits and unlimited liability, that no one wants to do anything in America anymore. The cost does not justify the benefit for those producers.

Your work safety training is different, as your employer should be paying for workers compensation insurance. But the employer can be fined by the state for unsafe practices.

I can not prove it but I am pretty sure they do it in order to get insurance. But regardless, at the end of the day people getting hurt cost money. And people that get hurt and winning lottery judgements cost a LOT of money. Like I have said before, I'm not all against safety. But when someone does get hurt, paying excessive judgement does have a cost burden to the overall economic viability of that industry. Especially if it happens again and again. And it should be viewed that way even for liberals.

So long as your employer is current with workers insurance, you cannot sue your employer for a work injury. You just make a claim.

 

[Keith&Co.]

You said she's a human at the end of the day.
I asked 'Why does she wait that long?'

 

[Trausti]

No. You said she's a person at the end of the day.
Thst's always, like, one of the first things i do.

It’s like a great dad joke. I’m appropriating it.

 

[Gospel]

No. You said she's a person at the end of the day.
Thst's always, like, one of the first things i do.

It’s like a great dad joke. I’m appropriating it.

Trausti was I just Whoosh'd?

 

[Keith&Co.]

No. You said she's a person at the end of the day.
Thst's always, like, one of the first things i do.

It’s like a great dad joke. I’m appropriating it.

Feel free!

 

[Rhea]

No. You said she's a person at the end of the day.
Thst's always, like, one of the first things i do.

It’s like a great dad joke. I’m appropriating it.

Trausti was I just Whoosh'd?

Afraid so. At the end of the day, it’s a great joke.

 

[thebeave]

Problem solved!

https://www.tmz.com/2021/02/11/gorilla-glue-hair-woman-tiktok-undergoes-surgery-beverly-hills-plastic-surgeon/

Now its time to hit the talk show circuit, maybe get a spot on Celebrity Big Brother, and cash in on the stupidity and victimhood. Cha-ching!

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

Problem solved!

https://www.tmz.com/2021/02/11/gorilla-glue-hair-woman-tiktok-undergoes-surgery-beverly-hills-plastic-surgeon/

Now its time to hit the talk show circuit, maybe get a spot on Celebrity Big Brother, and cash in on the stupidity and victimhood. Cha-ching!

And then run for President.

 

[thebeave]

Problem solved!

https://www.tmz.com/2021/02/11/gorilla-glue-hair-woman-tiktok-undergoes-surgery-beverly-hills-plastic-surgeon/

Now its time to hit the talk show circuit, maybe get a spot on Celebrity Big Brother, and cash in on the stupidity and victimhood. Cha-ching!

And then run for President.

Yup. If the people will vote for a moron like Trump, they should have no problem voting for Gorilla Glue Girl.

 

[atrib]

The small aircraft industry has been decimated by lawsuits, cessna and piper were both destroyed by suits they could not pay.

According to the Cessna wiki page, they lost sales during a global recession. No mention of lawsuits. Lay-offs.

They also made some shortcuts in making fiberglass components. Their QA did not catch the problem, resulting in an FAA agent watching a 7-foot section of wing delaminate during flight. This and a few other mistakes not caught by QA resulted in an FAA fine of $2.4 million.
Seems to me, if you're putting shoddy parts in fucking airplanes, and grt caught by the government doing so, the tort industry is not the main problem.

Anyway, Cessna was bought up by anothercompany and is now a brand mostly making planes in China.


That's not at all the story you related....

General aviation in the US went through a rough patch in the 1980s and 1990s, with manufacturers like Cessna and Piper being at the receiving end of enormous, and in many cases, unreasonable jury awards. Do a search for tort reform and general aviation and you should see articles on the subject. They both survived, and continue to make small aircraft to this day. The Cessna 172 that sold for $22,000 in the mid-70s costs about $500,000 today, and GA is out of the reach of many people. Cessna still makes their airplanes in Kansas, both the piston and turbo prop/fan powered units. I have owned three Cessna airplanes over the years, a 172, a 310 and presently a 414a, all made during the golden age of US general aviation.

 

[ronburgundy]

I take the point. I've been neglecting my antifeminism threads a bit lately.

They haven't been missed, and contain the same strawmen and fallacies every time, so don't bother.

I somehow doubt you polled 7 billion people for their view on this.

I don't need to. You linked to "evidence" of what you implied was a meaningful number of people supporting her suit and making a racial issue of it, when in fact your own link showed maybe 2-3 people with many more people disagreeing. IOW, there is no basis to believe more than those few people you searched for have the take you think is problematic. Thus, it's meaningless. The burden is on you to show more than a couple people on the planet have that take, otherwise it has zero implications for anything.

Also, the take about frivolous lawsuits rests on the same idiot notion that lone nutjobs or money grabbers bringing suits is a political problem that can somehow be solved. Such suits can only be eliminated (or prevented from even being thought about as the OP demands) via extreme corporatist fascism where corporations are completely shielded from any harm caused by their constant efforts to profit by harming the public.

It's a cultural and a political problem.

Corporations causing harm to the public, their customers, and employees is a far more prevalent and impactful problem, and there is no way to curb that without a system that allows their victims legal recourse which inherently allows some frivolous suits.

 

[ronburgundy]

Over on Twitter, there's a thread with people supporting the idea that Gorilla Glue is indeed culpable and should be sued, and the race angle is being highlighted.

https://mobile.twitter.com/exavierpope/status/1358901875303677953

Your link shows one idiot supporting it, with 99% of the replies criticizing him and the idiot who put it in her hair, including almost every one of the many replies by black people who find it both idiotic and the racial angle insulting. Odds are 90% of them are leftists, many of them "woke". So, much for the equally moronic narrative that this has anything to do with any political perspective or group, rather than being what it is, a few people out of 7 billion having a stupid take on something, which is guaranteed by random chance every second of the day.

Calm down. I didn't make a claim that the majority of any group supported the lawsuit.

There are three options: Either you were trying to imply that support of her complaint is widespread enough for it to represent a cultural problem, which is a claim unsupported and even refuted by your own link.
Or
You actually think finding a couple people on the entire planet with an irrational take is a problem, which would reveal an extreme intellectual deficit on your part.
Or
You understand that your link shows nothing of any value or relevance to anything that matters, but just love the smell of red herring festering on discussion boards.

 

[Elixir]

I can not prove it but I am pretty sure they do it in order to get insurance.

My insurance company doesn't require anything like that. I just write them a check every six months and I get insurance.

BTW, we are still waiting for your response.

 

[Metaphor]

They haven't been missed, and contain the same strawmen and fallacies every time, so don't bother.

You're not the boss of me.

I don't need to. You linked to "evidence" of what you implied was a meaningful number of people supporting her suit and making a racial issue of it, when in fact your own link showed maybe 2-3 people with many more people disagreeing. IOW, there is no basis to believe more than those few people you searched for have the take you think is problematic. Thus, it's meaningless. The burden is on you to show more than a couple people on the planet have that take, otherwise it has zero implications for anything.

There is no burden on me to do anything. I made a claim (that there were people who supported the suit and put a racial spin on it) and I supported it.

I also didn't 'search' for the people.

I also find it difficult to believe that you believe that the people who choose to respond in one particular Twitter thread with a particular take are the only people in the world with that same take.

When people used to send snail-mail letters of complaint to television networks, the unspoken wisdom was that every letter of complaint represented hundreds of people who would agree with the complaint but didn't write a letter.

Corporations causing harm to the public, their customers, and employees is a far more prevalent and impactful problem, and there is no way to curb that without a system that allows their victims legal recourse which inherently allows some frivolous suits.

Now that a surgeon got the glue out for her for free, and she still has the $19,000 proceeds from her gofundme, we can hope she doesn't feel the need to proceed with a frivolous lawsuit.

 

[Metaphor]

There are three options:

Oh good. The occasional false trilemma mixes it up when the false dilemma keeps hogging the fallacy limelight.

Either you were trying to imply that support of her complaint is widespread enough for it to represent a cultural problem, which is a claim unsupported and even refuted by your own link.
Or
You actually think finding a couple people on the entire planet with an irrational take is a problem, which would reveal an extreme intellectual deficit on your part.
Or
You understand that your link shows nothing of any value or relevance to anything that matters, but just love the smell of red herring festering on discussion boards.

Or my link shows exactly what I said it showed.

 

[ronburgundy]

You're not the boss of me.



There is no burden on me to do anything. I made a claim (that there were people who supported the suit and put a racial spin on it) and I supported it.

IOW, you made a claim that something exists which no logical relevance to whether this woman's stupidity reflects a broad enough social phenomena to have any impact that any sane person would care about. That's what I thought.

I also didn't 'search' for the people.

Really? So you just logged onto twitter and that post happened to be in your feed while you were participating in this thread? You didn't scroll past dozens of comments about it till you found one you could present to fit your narrative? That's almost supernatural given how almost all the replies to that post disagreed with it. Or do you have friends who also scour the planet for anything that makes a black people look stupid so you can forward to each other?

I also find it difficult to believe that you believe that the people who choose to respond in one particular Twitter thread with a particular take are the only people in the world with that same take.

When people used to send snail-mail letters of complaint to television networks, the unspoken wisdom was that every letter of complaint represented hundreds of people who would agree with the complaint but didn't write a letter.

There never was any "wisdom" or evidence for that assumption. Extremists are the kinds of people most likely to complain, and thus most complaints are highly non-representative and reflect only the tiny fraction of people in the tails of the distribution. It is even moreso with online complaints. Given that about half the human population (80% in developed counties) is on social media, nearly every conceivable take on every topic, no matter how absurd or unpopular is likely put forth by someone, and most takes shared by only a handful of people, since norms dictate that the majority share only a small subset of all possible takes. So, finding a take provides no basis to infer it is held beyond those who express it, and when almost all the replies attack it, that is evidence it is a rare uncommon take.

 

[ronburgundy]

There are three options:

Oh good. The occasional false trilemma mixes it up when the false dilemma keeps hogging the fallacy limelight.

Either you were trying to imply that support of her complaint is widespread enough for it to represent a cultural problem, which is a claim unsupported and even refuted by your own link.
Or
You actually think finding a couple people on the entire planet with an irrational take is a problem, which would reveal an extreme intellectual deficit on your part.
Or
You understand that your link shows nothing of any value or relevance to anything that matters, but just love the smell of red herring festering on discussion boards.

Or my link shows exactly what I said it showed.

Nothing false about it, those are the 3 logically exhaustive possibilities, and your excuse shows the answer is #3, your link shows what it shows which is 2 people on the planet who have that take from which nothing can be inferred, thus it is an irrelevant red herring.

 

[Elixir]

Bottom line: It looks good. No harm no foul.
In fact they should probably raise the price of Gorilla Glue.

 

[Metaphor]

Really? So you just logged onto twitter and that post happened to be in your feed while you were participating in this thread? You didn't scroll past dozens of comments about it till you found one you could present to fit your narrative? That's almost supernatural given how almost all the replies to that post disagreed with it. Or do you have friends who also scour the planet for anything that makes a black people look stupid so you can forward to each other?

Are you practising for the false choice Olympiad?

Someone I follow on Twitter retweeted the thread I linked to. I don't know how Twitter decides to show me the things it shows me, but in fact I would not be surprised if my internet searches and pages I've visited (e.g. the original Gorilla Glue story in the OP and follow ups) influenced the algorithm to show me that re-tweet.

Please stop with your flights of fantasy.

There never was any "wisdom" or evidence for that assumption. Extremists are the kinds of people most likely to complain, and thus most complaints are highly non-representative and reflect only the tiny fraction of people in the tails of the distribution. It is even moreso with online complaints. Given that about half the human population (80% in developed counties) is on social media, nearly every conceivable take on every topic, no matter how absurd or unpopular is likely put forth by someone, and most takes shared by only a handful of people, since norms dictate that the majority share only a small subset of all possible takes. So, finding a take provides no basis to infer it is held beyond those who express it, and when almost all the replies attack it, that is evidence it is a rare uncommon take.

And if I'd said the 'take' was a majority take, you'd be right to call me on it. Of course, I wouldn't use a single thread on Twitter as evidence of any kind of 'proportion' argument, since there are probably tens of thousands of people who wrote a Tweet on this story, and the comment trail on each Tweet will be influenced by who the person's followers are.

In any case, a 'take' doesn't have to be anywhere close to a majority to influence the outcome of a court case, since jurors are not selected randomly. But we can hope she doesn't try to sue, can't we?